Camaroking1996

Maybe a dumb question. But ehy do F bodies have more a drivetrain loss than vettes?

mac62989

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Si senor.

JakeFusion

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That's an awesome cam. Very nice power.

muttstang

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Damn those are some good numbers! Crazy torque!

Ws6kid.

Solid numbers!

LS6

Very strong torque

Rise of the Phoenix

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Anyone care to venture what the numbers would have been with a 230/232 111+0 LSA cam?

JakeFusion

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Would have peaked a bit higher. Torque might have been down slightly.

Mr. Trick

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This thread is making me wish I went with a smaller cam rather then a max effort cam for my set up.

Rise of the Phoenix

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How do you think the 230/230 or 232/230 cam would do with my AFR 210cc heads?

JakeFusion

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It would work very well. You should talk to Mamo. He likes single pattern cams for the AFR heads due to their strong exhaust numbers. But, I like the proprietary lobes from Geoff @ EPS and Ed Curtis, so get them to put something together.

BTW, Mamo told me for AFR 215s and a high stall A4... 227/231 114+1 LSL lobes.

Ed has told me 228/232 SSHT variant... probably on a 114+2 for AFR/TFS 215.

And Pat G spec'd a 230/234 115+2 for those heads and a high stall.

All have said with a high stall don't worry about an early IVC. If you have an M6, you should look for an earlier IVC. But none of those cams have more than 2 degrees of overlap and will drive very nice.

BTW, I'd really look at those Livernois heads. I've seen three separate dynos that show 460+ with small cams and LS6 intakes with them. Those are pretty strong numbers from a 220cc runner head and are in line with what the AFRs would do at a much lower price point. Plus, you can run stock rockers with the shelf Livernois springs (150/410lbs) and wouldn't have any issues.

mac62989

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^The Livernois stage 3's are rathing intriguing. Ive seen the video on youtube of a car with an LS6 intake putting up 450 rwhp+. I think the smaller 220 runner helps the power under the curve a lot too. What always has me scratching my head is why no one ever ran them..

JakeFusion

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Yeah. I saw a GM Hitech article back when TFS 215 were brand new vs AFR 205 and Livernois Stage 3. Livernois and AFR 205 were neck and neck and just slightly off the TFS 215s.

mac62989

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Just read it 5 minutes ago..

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ylinder_heads/

JakeFusion

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Their exhaust numbers are a little weak in comparison. But Livernois runs single pattern cams with them and this thread shows that doesn't seem to be a problem.