Ms3 & ms4 users need your input
03-27-2012, 09:18 AM
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Ms3 & ms4 users need your input Looking to put either one in my ls1 car with a 3600 yank stall I've seen
Where ppl said u have to change your valvesprings every 10 k miles is bus true? I'm getting upgraded springs as suggested but do I have to change them
That often. I plan on daily driving it and I have a good tuner to get the street manners under control and the car has longtubes and basic bolt ons with 200 squeeze thanks for your input
Where ppl said u have to change your valvesprings every 10 k miles is bus true? I'm getting upgraded springs as suggested but do I have to change them
That often. I plan on daily driving it and I have a good tuner to get the street manners under control and the car has longtubes and basic bolt ons with 200 squeeze thanks for your input
03-27-2012, 11:16 AM
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ms4 Looking to put either one in my ls1 car with a 3600 yank stall I've seen
Where ppl said u have to change your valvesprings every 10 k miles is bus true? I'm getting upgraded springs as suggested but do I have to change them
That often. I plan on daily driving it and I have a good tuner to get the street manners under control and the car has longtubes and basic bolt ons with 200 squeeze thanks for your input
Where ppl said u have to change your valvesprings every 10 k miles is bus true? I'm getting upgraded springs as suggested but do I have to change them
That often. I plan on daily driving it and I have a good tuner to get the street manners under control and the car has longtubes and basic bolt ons with 200 squeeze thanks for your input
03-27-2012, 12:56 PM
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I have the MS3 and put 15,000 miles on the upgraded springs and then swapped heads to get more power, but the upgraded springs on the stock heads were fine, had them checked and still good to go, actually i gave them to a buddy of mine who still uses them.
I drove mine daily and only raced occasionally. I think the harder you are on the motor the shorter the life of the springs.
Car is nice to drive the chop sounds great, the street manners are good its a beast above 4000rpm. Like he said, change the gears and get a good tune.
I drove mine daily and only raced occasionally. I think the harder you are on the motor the shorter the life of the springs.
Car is nice to drive the chop sounds great, the street manners are good its a beast above 4000rpm. Like he said, change the gears and get a good tune.
03-28-2012, 11:31 AM
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With the MS4 it's probably a good idea to check them every year. But generally every 4-5 years or 20k miles. I'm pretty sure that's what TSP recommended with my Torquer V3, which also has a high lift. With the MS3 guys have gone past 30k miles with no problems at all, much lower lift. With a DD'er I'd definately go toward something with a lower lift.
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03-31-2012, 11:18 AM
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I have a SS3600 paired with mine. If I was going to spray it I would keep it but if I decide to keep it NA I'm getting it restalled...but it pulls decently from what I can tell.
I believe TSP says a 3600 is the smallest you want to go.
N/A: 3800-4400
N20:3600-3800
From what I've read
I believe TSP says a 3600 is the smallest you want to go.
N/A: 3800-4400
N20:3600-3800
From what I've read
03-31-2012, 11:40 AM
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ms4,ms3 are max effort cams and are in no way a budget way of going fast, if the car is not set up right your not going to take full advantage of those cams, listen i have had the ms4 in my car for the past 3 years, if your going to dd your car go with something else, you can get a bad *** cam sound on a much smaller pro file, in a street car you want gobs or torque /low end, now with a bigger cam the least gear i would put in it would be 4.10, if it was my car depending on spray/tire etc i would think 4.30s, if its a cam only car even think about a 4.56, again its a max effort cam, next the exhaust 1 7/8 headers,with a good dual 3 inch exhaust, trust me that will help more than you think, if you wanna do it right killer heads/custom eps cam/fast intake/ would make you very happy, as far as the springs go i drove 1000 miles a week all summer long and my springs were fine but i will be changing them soon. if its your every day car think , i drove a 2000 ss with a 224 cam,good heads, etc magnaflow exhaust ,stalled auto and it was a dream to drive on the street , great power and all that good stuff,
03-31-2012, 12:04 PM
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im just telling ya man , there are 1000 of cars that run those cams, and only a handful of them run well, now im talking about your every day stock ls1 ,no 383 ,bigger cube motor etc, and alot of guys that get into those cams 70% didnt know what they were getting into and wish they would have got a cam that better fits there needs, there killer cams , and if your going to put the parts around it that it needs you will love it, i would shoot for a ms3 on 112lsa if your dead set on it, another big cam that is pretty killer is the polluter, my buddy made sick numbers with that and trickflow heads,
03-31-2012, 03:34 PM
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very good pick, top that off with some decent heads and you will be very happy,again not trying to diss the ms cams ,there great cams, but i really wish i would have went a lil smaller, low 230 would have fit my build alot better,it came down to i found a brand new kit local for 300 bucks with rods n springs, you will be happy op, me and lemons have talked alot of people away from the huge cams, and there have been some very happy people lol
03-31-2012, 04:33 PM
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ms4,ms3 are max effort cams and are in no way a budget way of going fast, if the car is not set up right your not going to take full advantage of those cams, listen i have had the ms4 in my car for the past 3 years, if your going to dd your car go with something else, you can get a bad *** cam sound on a much smaller pro file, in a street car you want gobs or torque /low end, now with a bigger cam the least gear i would put in it would be 4.10, if it was my car depending on spray/tire etc i would think 4.30s, if its a cam only car even think about a 4.56, again its a max effort cam, next the exhaust 1 7/8 headers,with a good dual 3 inch exhaust, trust me that will help more than you think, if you wanna do it right killer heads/custom eps cam/fast intake/ would make you very happy, as far as the springs go i drove 1000 miles a week all summer long and my springs were fine but i will be changing them soon. if its your every day car think , i drove a 2000 ss with a 224 cam,good heads, etc magnaflow exhaust ,stalled auto and it was a dream to drive on the street , great power and all that good stuff,
Good advice.
I had an MS3 in a 383 with a 3600 stall and 3.42's, LS6 heads and a 102. It was real lazy down low. It made decent top end power and would suck down N2O like a drunken sailor on leave. Car ran mid 10's on a stock 10 bolt and built 60e for several years.