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Old 04-22-2012, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 94Z28-MSTGKLR
Sorry to jack your thread but I have a question reguarding this. Next spring I plan to instal new crank, rod bearings, along with a fresh hone and new rings. All on the stock bottom end. I am doing this because I need to reseal the oil pan, and plan to instal a heads/cam combo as well. I was going to do head studs. Should I do crank and rods too? Or just reuse factory on those?
Your rod bolts are the weakest link in the bottom end, you really have two good choices here...Katech bolts can be put right in, for the ARP bolts you are supposed to have your rods resized......I have gone both ways and never had a problem. With the Katechs in my stock block I hydro locked number 7 and threw it out the side of the block and pan.....the bolts were still tight and perfect, but the new shortblock stroker I picked up already had the ARP bolts in it so I gave the Katech bolts to a friend that is still running them in his motor.
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Originally Posted by 94Z28-MSTGKLR
Sorry to jack your thread but I have a question reguarding this. Next spring I plan to instal new crank, rod bearings, along with a fresh hone and new rings. All on the stock bottom end. I am doing this because I need to reseal the oil pan, and plan to instal a heads/cam combo as well. I was going to do head studs. Should I do crank and rods too? Or just reuse factory on those?
if your already going to be into it that deep i would hella spend the money on the arp rod and mains. it will make your stock bottom end just that much more reliable.
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Are the Arp head bolts reusable? or is it a one and done thing like the factory bolts
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They are reusable
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Originally Posted by badazz81z28
Try $245, Look at some of the sponsors. Summit Racing and Jegs are the ones charging $300+
Wait a minute, who is selling head and main studs for less than$300? Maybe you meant just for head studs.
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Also, we all know that studs are better than bolts. That has never been the question. We don't need any more posts about why studs are better.
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Originally Posted by SF 1HOTLS1
if your already going to be into it that deep i would hella spend the money on the arp rod and mains. it will make your stock bottom end just that much more reliable.
Rod bolts are one thing because the oem ones are weak as ****, but do you even hear about people breaking mains in street applications?
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Originally Posted by BadAndy
Also, we all know that studs are better than bolts. That has never been the question. We don't need any more posts about why studs are better.
AGREED. BUT, there are still those (not I!) that say it's no better and not worth the cost.
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Originally Posted by Paul Bell
AGREED. BUT, there are still those (not I!) that say it's no better and not worth the cost.
And those same folks probably use Fram oil filters too!
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Originally Posted by BadAndy
Wait a minute, who is selling head and main studs for less than$300? Maybe you meant just for head studs.
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Originally Posted by Darkman
And those same folks probably use Fram oil filters too!
C5R heads are better than 243 heads, but is it really worth it if I were only shooting for 400whp? In many applications, main studs are not worth the cost. You can still make a lot of power with the OEM main bolts.

And I use Wix oil filters!
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I agree with that about main fasteners. It's head fastener installation that are so finicky. Heads or mains, I'd always be nervous torquing threaded fasteners into an aluminum casting with threads cut into it.
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Originally Posted by Paul Bell
I agree with that about main fasteners. It's head fastener installation that are so finicky. Heads or mains, I'd always be nervous torquing threaded fasteners into an aluminum casting with threads cut into it.
#1 reason why I decided to go Studs. I would be just so sick to death if I twisted out a head thread on a brand new block . Head bolts have been used by many without any ill effects, but I want a higher percentage of success.
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Look, IDK if we just have a failure to communicate here or what, but where I come from ~$250-260 for head studs and and $190 for main studs adds up to about $450.
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Originally Posted by 94Z28-MSTGKLR
Yeah, thats what I'm thinking. I found main studs but I can't find rod studs. All I can find are"arp cracked rods" bolts...
you can only get rods bolts
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Originally Posted by Zedtransam
you can only get rods bolts
I would think that in the 4 years since he posted, he probably figured that out...
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Zedtransam, welcome to LS1tech! It's about time you posted something!
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Originally Posted by redtan
Question is, how much harder is it to take the heads off with studs while in the car? And do you have to raise the engine at all to do so?
I know that this is an old thread. But I thought I should address this because it seems to be such a commonly believed misconception that studs should NEVER be used unless the head can be pulled clear from them. This is simply UNTRUE. Studs are no more an obstacle than bolts in a crowded engine bay, and may actually make things EASIER in some cases. What is often neglected is the fact that studs (like ARP) have Allen sockets on the top, and can be removed before the heads. They can then be reinstalled after the heads are placed on the block. This way, you need not worry about whether or not the head can clear the studs when it needs to be removed. Furthermore, without any bolt heads to worry about, studs can easily be removed even in situations where a bolt head would interfere with something like a brake booster when pulling the bolt out of the hole. Yes, there is the extra step of pulling the studs after loosening the nuts and installing them before tightening the nuts. But this is certainly no deal killer when it comes to using studs. Especially when you look at all the advantages of using studs vs bolts.


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