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Old May 25, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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Im really interested in the 228r or polluter for my 01 z28 a4 with a conplete 98 ls1 swap. It's going to be a DD cam. As of right now my mods are longtubes magnaflow catback ls6 manifold and 3.23 gears.
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No track time for a while so its purely street car. Maybe a race once or twice a month.

What stall would you recommend for this cam? I researched and a 3200 is most recommened

My hp goals would be to break 420hp with tsp true duals setup with either one. Is that close to possible? From what I understand is that of the 2 the 228r is easier on a DD even tho drivability is mostly in the tuners hands. I dont want to replace springs or anything every few thousand miles. PTV is a big concern. Iv seen alot say the polluter is a max effort cam.

Any other info you can give me about it would be great too.

I would love to keep up with a buddy of mine with an 02 ss with a polluter cam mid lengths 4.10s T56 or at least a car or so behind.
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Old May 25, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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Polluter cam would just be retarded on your car for a dd... 242/244 right? Those 2 cams are not even close. That big of a cam with a 3200 stall would run like ****. Now a 228r and a 3200-3600 stall would run damn good
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Old May 25, 2012 | 07:31 PM
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Yea I know opposite sides of spectrum there lol. When I said 3200 is recommended most I meant for 228r. Should have specified.

Why retarded? Just cuz it's a donkey dick cam and whatnot? I'm mostly leaning to 228 but some people are claiming 370ish on a dyno and tick claims 417 with polluter with true duals and long tubes. Pretty sure that's apples to oranges comparison right?
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For the "polluter", you'll need steeper gears and more stall for sure. I say 228r hands down, Yank SS3600 stall.
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Old May 25, 2012 | 07:33 PM
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Would a ss3600 be fine for stop and go traffic?
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Old May 25, 2012 | 07:41 PM
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How loose the stall is is not based on stall wot speed. It is based on STR. That is why I recommend the Yank SS series. Smooth on the street and an **** kicker when the pedal hits the metal.
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I would say find a cam with specs in the middle of those 2 with a 3400 stall and 3.73 gears for DD.
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Originally Posted by Camaroking1996
I would say find a cam with specs in the middle of those 2 with a 3400 stall and 3.73 gears for DD.
I've DD Yank ss4000. It was great, the real issue was hooking on any size street tires. That was with 3.23 rear and I hit high 10's on that.
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Iv been looking at cams for a few months. And liked results of the 228. Only reason I even consider the polluter is being in my friends ss with is. Straight monster. I'll more than likely go with 228.
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Would a ss3600 be fine for stop and go traffic?
My ss3600 is a great ALL around converter. I run mine stock cam 3.23 and its cake to drive.
Ill be going with tea heads and 228 cam soon.
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Do you need a trans cooler with every aftermarker stall? Or only after a certain one? Say 3400 and up.?
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Yea I know opposite sides of spectrum there lol. When I said 3200 is recommended most I meant for 228r. Should have specified.

Why retarded? Just cuz it's a donkey dick cam and whatnot? I'm mostly leaning to 228 but some people are claiming 370ish on a dyno and tick claims 417 with polluter with true duals and long tubes. Pretty sure that's apples to oranges comparison right?
You will not see nearly as much through a 4l60e that you would with a m6... Cam only you will not see 420 hp. Actually you won't even see 400 hp unless the dyno lies to you
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Originally Posted by 14k
Do you need a trans cooler with every aftermarker stall? Or only after a certain one? Say 3400 and up.?
Yes as big of cooler as you can get!
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Since its such a big cam the m6 makes it easier to handle and DD?
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Do you need a trans cooler with every aftermarker stall? Or only after a certain one? Say 3400 and up.?
I had a cooler on my stock stall as well. To tell you the truth I didnt notice much higher temps consistently after going ss3600. BUT iv come to the conclusion our cars should of had better trans coolers from the factory IMO.

You should run the biggest you can get if you plan on beating on it.
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Honestly I baby my car. I love having the power ready for when I do decide to race. It's city only car. No need to get on hwy ever. If that matters any
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Originally Posted by sweet99ss
You will not see nearly as much through a 4l60e that you would with a m6... Cam only you will not see 420 hp. Actually you won't even see 400 hp unless the dyno lies to you
228 duration is enough to see 400rwhp, heck you can see those numbers on a 224 duration. Trick is to do it right on a healthy motor.
I run a base dyno run before actual mod in order to see closer actual benefit of work. Otherwise one get no real data on improvements.
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City will be worse because you will be unlocked unless driving like 40mph.
You should def have a cooler no way around it.
My bad im talking stalls in the internal section lol
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I have the 228R and 4100 Revmax. I DD it for awhile when my trucks clutch decided to let go. Its a very nice cam. Very tame. But I wish I would have gone bigger. Somthing in the 230's. I hit 382hp 364tq
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Old May 25, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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I'm usually at 40-50 in city. Main road speeds are 40-45 but I'll be unlocked most of the time.

If 228 is enough to make 400 why did ls1wallen make 382? I want 400+ to the wheels. I'll be throwing ported 241s too.
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