400rwhp power goal... need heads?
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In the future, id like to build up my camaro further w/ a 224R cam. my question is, w/ full bolt-ons and a 224R cam, can i reach my goal of 400rwhp without porting the heads or getting 243s? Bolt ons being 25% underdrive pulley, lid, ls6 intake + ported tb, 1-3/4" longtubes, catted-y and no muffler. The powers gonna get put down thru an A4 and 10-bolt rear.
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another somewut unrelated question is- I would prefer to keep the stock stall/not much higher than stock so would i be better off sticking wit a small cam and throwing on some stage 2.5 ls6 heads to reach my power goals?
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I'm really looking for a very stock-like behavior ride and idle wit a good boost in power that i can use around town and still get solid gas mileage. This really isn't for racing at all, just some spirited driving here and there
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My buddy's car made 400rwhp with about 4.5 psi on an old school vortech, non intercooled, supercharger and full exhaust. Old superchargers are getting cheaper and cheaper in the classifieds here. Just something to consider, but many people have made 400rwhp without head work, yes.
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A 224r full bolt ons and unported 243 heads will net 400 easy. Now if you dont want to buy new heads, send your stock 241 heads to AI and have them work their magic. Their 241's with nice cams have produced very nice numbers lately
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Don't get caught up on dyno numbers. If that's your "thing", then throw a ******* donkey dick in there and you'll have your dyno queen. If you want a great street car that can hold it's own at the track and likely beat the **** out of other cars with a cam that is way too big in it, then go with the 224r, 228r or 224* 228* cam with some nice heads like AFR, TFS, PRC.
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Ported/milled heads needs to be on you list to see > "400".
Id also highly recommend going with at least a 3000 stall TC, even with a stock or small perf cam.
http://www.converter.cc/FAQ_s/45.htm
Id also highly recommend going with at least a 3000 stall TC, even with a stock or small perf cam.
http://www.converter.cc/FAQ_s/45.htm
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400rwhp on catted y pipe with a 224ish cam through an automatic isn't going to happen on a realistic dyno.
Honestly the converter is going to give you more fun factor than a cam. Get a nice efficient one like a Yank 2800-3200 and enjoy that and get the small cam later IMO.
EDIT: if you add all the costs you will find it should also be cheaper (ie better bang for buck)
With a cam you will need: cam, springs, oil pump, timing chain, gaskets, pushrods, etc and a tune
For the converter you need converter, trans cooler, some rubber line, and fluid
Honestly the converter is going to give you more fun factor than a cam. Get a nice efficient one like a Yank 2800-3200 and enjoy that and get the small cam later IMO.
EDIT: if you add all the costs you will find it should also be cheaper (ie better bang for buck)
With a cam you will need: cam, springs, oil pump, timing chain, gaskets, pushrods, etc and a tune
For the converter you need converter, trans cooler, some rubber line, and fluid
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A stall doesnt hurt your mileage that bad. It does affect it a little in city driving, but on the freeway, its locked up just as the stocker would be. Ive run 4000rpm stalls, and I currently have a Yank SS3600 and would NEVER EVER go smaller than that. In fact, Id rather go back to a 4000+ stall again.
I dont think anything will put as big of a smile on your face as a bigger stall will.
I dont think anything will put as big of a smile on your face as a bigger stall will.
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