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Old 07-31-2012, 08:48 AM
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Don't forget too that with some port and mill work you can make real good power with 241's
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Even if you port and polish the 317's and mill them some they aren't as good as 241's or 243's on a NA setup?
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Originally Posted by OutrunNAScaR14
Even if you port and polish the 317's and mill them some they aren't as good as 241's or 243's on a NA setup?
Takes a lot to mill that much off of a 317 when you can take .030-.045 off a 241 or 243 and get higher static compression than you can with nearly twice as much off the 317's. You run out of material to mill and personally I'd like as much material on my heads as possible for deck sealing.
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Originally Posted by OutrunNAScaR14
Even if you port and polish the 317's and mill them some they aren't as good as 241's or 243's on a NA setup?
Personally I would prefer a smaller chamber combined with a very slightly fished piston to get the exact compression I'm shooting for.

Don't quote me on it, but I think once you mill as much as needed off the 317 heads to get Thursday compression up you lose the combustion chambers desired shape and start shrouding the valves
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Dang. The reason I asked is bc a buddy of mine has a ported and polished set of 317 with .600 lift springs for $100. But I don't guess they will do my NA ls1 any good.
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Originally Posted by OutrunNAScaR14
Dang. The reason I asked is bc a buddy of mine has a ported and polished set of 317 with .600 lift springs for $100. But I don't guess they will do my NA ls1 any good.
That is a good deal!

If you were boosted or building it for boost they would be IDEAL, but in this case it's just not going to be optimal or even mediocre at best.
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Thanks for the info. I thought about buying them just to resale since its such a good deal.
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That's not a bad idea. Buy them and sell them or try to trade them for some 243s. that is a smoking deal for a set of ported 317s.
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i found some 243's from a truck yard off of a chevy tahoe. Price is 175$. i plan on having them ported and polished to get some more flow out of them.
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
I prefer the 799 casting in a budget situation over the 243's.

Mainly because they can be found a LOT cheaper than 243's and aside from the foundry they were cast in they are the same head.

I can guide you in the right direction as far as cam wise and can put you a cam package together for 690+shipping.
im in california, do you have a cam that will still pass smog plus make good power? i heard that a 224/224 581/581 114lsa is the max i could go and still pass smog
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Originally Posted by CuekooZ28
im in california, do you have a cam that will still pass smog plus make good power? i heard that a 224/224 581/581 114lsa is the max i could go and still pass smog
That is the largest cam we have been told by our customers will pass smog in Cali. I would be nervous about going much bigger.
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The ls1 in my car came from Texas speed. So far it's hasn't missed a lick it runs strong.
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Originally Posted by CuekooZ28
im in california, do you have a cam that will still pass smog plus make good power? i heard that a 224/224 581/581 114lsa is the max i could go and still pass smog
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Originally Posted by OutrunNAScaR14
The ls1 in my car came from Texas speed. So far it's hasn't missed a lick it runs strong.
what cam are you running?
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317s are the most underrated heads in LS family . These heads in the hands of of top shelf porter can turn out some great numbers. If your is goal is peak compression go with 243 , but on a budget 317s milled .030 to .040 and hand ported will do the job. The comparison should be milled 317s vs stock 243s .

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Originally Posted by CuekooZ28
what cam are you running?
.592 .590 lsa113
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Originally Posted by CuekooZ28
im in california, do you have a cam that will still pass smog plus make good power? i heard that a 224/224 581/581 114lsa is the max i could go and still pass smog
from what ive been reading around the forum, thats almost if not exactly the same spec as the TU1 lol which is suppose to be a really good off shelf turbo cam lol im looking intot that one for my build lol
aare you running with just heads and cam or do you too have boost? if not hows it pulling compared to stock layout?
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Im going to bring this back... so what I gather is that if im going power adder later then the 317 heads are worth it with the right cam...?
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Originally Posted by OutrunNAScaR14
.592 .590 lsa113
And that tells me??? What about durations?/



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