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You will think its the coolest **** for about a week, then you will realize your car is a pain in the *** to drive. Trex is a bigass cam for a stock cube motor. yea, you can easily make 420rwhp+ cam only with it, but driving around town it sucks, and you can make comparable power with a smaller camshaft on stock ci. I've had one and Ive installed and tuned them a few times.
Get a smaller cam, the right setup will be much nicer to use than the trex.
Get a smaller cam, the right setup will be much nicer to use than the trex.
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Cam only does typically include headers,ory,FAST intake,larger throttle body
and sometimes bigger injectors
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I guess my stock 241 heads are special......You really should not post comments like this without proper knowledge of the subject at hand. I know that sounds like a dick thing to say, but what you said is totally untrue.
239/247 .624"/.624" 110+0 custom cam...Fast 92 intake, ARH 1x7/8" headers and an unlocked TH400 with a 4600 stall made these numbers...basically cam-only:
239/247 .624"/.624" 110+0 custom cam...Fast 92 intake, ARH 1x7/8" headers and an unlocked TH400 with a 4600 stall made these numbers...basically cam-only:
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I guess my stock 241 heads are special......You really should not post comments like this without proper knowledge of the subject at hand. I know that sounds like a dick thing to say, but what you said is totally untrue.
239/247 .624"/.624" 110+0 custom cam...Fast 92 intake, ARH 1x7/8" headers and an unlocked TH400 with a 4600 stall made these numbers...basically cam-only:
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239/247 .624"/.624" 110+0 custom cam...Fast 92 intake, ARH 1x7/8" headers and an unlocked TH400 with a 4600 stall made these numbers...basically cam-only:
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Your fast 92 is flows more than stock ls1 intake while your 1 7/8 headers flow a lot more than the cute little stock ls1 manifolds...the heads are only part of the equation. As you know.
Now correct me if that is wrong but it all makes sense to me using common logic.
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A Fast 92 and 1x7/8" headers do not change what the heads flow and where they stall. I was just pointing out the fallacy in your comment that is all. Not looking to start a pissing match or mess up the OP's thread.
BTW post number three highlights what his supporting mods will be and they don't look any different than mine aside from he will have ported heads from Advanced Induction which will only flow even better than my stock 241's. It is hard to tell whether the OP's version of "cam-only" means adding a cam to his current set-up that made 301hp or if he means "cam-only" with headers, Fast92 etc. Either way I felt compelled to show you that 241 heads don't stall at 5500rpm.
BTW post number three highlights what his supporting mods will be and they don't look any different than mine aside from he will have ported heads from Advanced Induction which will only flow even better than my stock 241's. It is hard to tell whether the OP's version of "cam-only" means adding a cam to his current set-up that made 301hp or if he means "cam-only" with headers, Fast92 etc. Either way I felt compelled to show you that 241 heads don't stall at 5500rpm.
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OP, you can make GREAT numbers with something smaller. You really need at least an LS6 intake and longtube headers though. Get them first.
Yeah, I have AFR heads, but my cam is a HELL of a lot smaller than anything listed here so far. Martin is great with cams and is actually active on the board. I prefer Ed myself for obvious reasons, but I've learned to deal with how he communicates.
Be realistic with yourself and your goals.
Yeah, I have AFR heads, but my cam is a HELL of a lot smaller than anything listed here so far. Martin is great with cams and is actually active on the board. I prefer Ed myself for obvious reasons, but I've learned to deal with how he communicates.
Be realistic with yourself and your goals.
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OP, you can make GREAT numbers with something smaller. You really need at least an LS6 intake and longtube headers though. Get them first.
Yeah, I have AFR heads, but my cam is a HELL of a lot smaller than anything listed here so far. Martin is great with cams and is actually active on the board. I prefer Ed myself for obvious reasons, but I've learned to deal with how he communicates.
Be realistic with yourself and your goals.
Yeah, I have AFR heads, but my cam is a HELL of a lot smaller than anything listed here so far. Martin is great with cams and is actually active on the board. I prefer Ed myself for obvious reasons, but I've learned to deal with how he communicates.
Be realistic with yourself and your goals.
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A Fast 92 and 1x7/8" headers do not change what the heads flow and where they stall. I was just pointing out the fallacy in your comment that is all. Not looking to start a pissing match or mess up the OP's thread.
BTW post number three highlights what his supporting mods will be and they don't look any different than mine aside from he will have ported heads from Advanced Induction which will only flow even better than my stock 241's. It is hard to tell whether the OP's version of "cam-only" means adding a cam to his current set-up that made 301hp or if he means "cam-only" with headers, Fast92 etc. Either way I felt compelled to show you that 241 heads don't stall at 5500rpm.
BTW post number three highlights what his supporting mods will be and they don't look any different than mine aside from he will have ported heads from Advanced Induction which will only flow even better than my stock 241's. It is hard to tell whether the OP's version of "cam-only" means adding a cam to his current set-up that made 301hp or if he means "cam-only" with headers, Fast92 etc. Either way I felt compelled to show you that 241 heads don't stall at 5500rpm.
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Agreed, my point was the combination as a whole, heads, intake, exhaust...etc. and my reply was clearly toward his question about power...cam only, without supporting mods. You know as well as I do, with stock everything but a cat back, that cam would be a total turd and generally make the driving experience terrible.
That said I do have some V.2 Polluter results coming soon cam-only in a 6spd. Trans-Am we have at the shop now. Should be interesting for sure to see if it can eclipse the V.1 and it's other competitors.
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Thank u guys for all the good info. Ive been super busy lately and havent been on the web much. So basically if i want a cam to perform i need some bolt ons before hand. Also has anyone done a clutch change on there own cause i was quoted 1600 for the shop to put a OEM clutch and slave in. And they refused to install a performance clutch like a Monster Stage 2. So a little off topic question how hard is a clutch change in my drive way. Any little details that arent mentioned in the write ups or my Chilton manual?
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The only useful thing we used the Chilton manual for when doing my clutch was the torque specs. Either buy or rent all of the specialty tools, and get the car really high in the air.
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What specialty tools would i need besides torque wrenches and a transmission lift? This will be my first clutch change so any advice would be appreciated.
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A blind hole bearing puller for the pilot bearing is the only one I can think of. But I swear there was something else that we used, but I can't think of what it would be.
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I also dont find the driveability of the MS3 all that bad either. Sure its not as civilized as a stock car but its not horrible. In fact, until I just recently picked up my new dd, i I drove my MS3 TA everyday. Never gave me issues and I wouldnt hesistate to drive it anywhere. Keep the revs above 1600 and you dont get any surge.