About to purchase H/C/I... Any thoughts before decision is made
12-29-2012, 08:40 PM
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The heads are off, lifters are out, now its time to scrape some gasket material and chase some bolt holes. I'm in no hurry, still waiting for some things to arrive. So I'm taking my time and actually enjoying how things are going. It's nice not to be rushed.
I posted the flow data. I had to edit out some personal info on the scanned sheet just in case your wondering why it looks so sketchy..lol
12-30-2012, 06:47 PM
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I'll agree that they should all be looked at the same. I didn't put that up to brag. I can tell you though, they flow a hell of a lot better than the heads I just took off.
12-30-2012, 07:14 PM
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Figured I would also update the part status by mentioning I picked up a ported FAST 92 and a 95mm PTM Throttle body . (Porting was done by TSP, and the TB has been ported to match the intake) I think this setup will compliment the heads nicely.
The engine has been torn down as far as it needs to be. It's time for it to start going back together once the parts arrive. Everything is on it's way! I figured the tear down would have taken longer, I took my sweet *** time on it all. Maybe that's why it came apart so easy. (I even have all of the deck surfaces clean.) I'm going to wait to install anything until all of the goodies are here. Now it's time to relax and enjoy Sunday night Football and cold beer for the rest of the evening.
The engine has been torn down as far as it needs to be. It's time for it to start going back together once the parts arrive. Everything is on it's way! I figured the tear down would have taken longer, I took my sweet *** time on it all. Maybe that's why it came apart so easy. (I even have all of the deck surfaces clean.) I'm going to wait to install anything until all of the goodies are here. Now it's time to relax and enjoy Sunday night Football and cold beer for the rest of the evening.
12-30-2012, 10:09 PM
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Is the FAST port matched to the heads? Did you send a template to TSP? I know a few places I've talked to (Mamo and Peak) both would like a mock up of the heads on the block with the ports outlined. That allows them to set the FAST down on it and port match to the heads. I think I saw on a thread on here for a guy who did that with a Victor intake and he used brown grocery bags.
Tooley recommended using the heads if you bought through him, but I figure he'd do the same if you already had the heads, since it's a pretty standard practice.
Tooley recommended using the heads if you bought through him, but I figure he'd do the same if you already had the heads, since it's a pretty standard practice.
12-30-2012, 10:17 PM
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Is the FAST port matched to the heads? Did you send a template to TSP? I know a few places I've talked to (Mamo and Peak) both would like a mock up of the heads on the block with the ports outlined. That allows them to set the FAST down on it and port match to the heads. I think I saw on a thread on here for a guy who did that with a Victor intake and he used brown grocery bags.
Tooley recommended using the heads if you bought through him, but I figure he'd do the same if you already had the heads, since it's a pretty standard practice.
Tooley recommended using the heads if you bought through him, but I figure he'd do the same if you already had the heads, since it's a pretty standard practice.
12-30-2012, 10:35 PM
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I think I'm going to run the 102 unported and then port match to the heads and see if there is any difference. I figure maybe 3-5HP unless the ports are waaaay off.
I very much doubt there is much to be found porting the runners. Would be nice to see though. You'd think a shop would do a true A vs B comparisons to try and sell a lot of their product. But they don't, so my guess is it's not worth much or else the results would demonstrate the value...
I very much doubt there is much to be found porting the runners. Would be nice to see though. You'd think a shop would do a true A vs B comparisons to try and sell a lot of their product. But they don't, so my guess is it's not worth much or else the results would demonstrate the value...
12-30-2012, 11:12 PM
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I think I'm going to run the 102 unported and then port match to the heads and see if there is any difference. I figure maybe 3-5HP unless the ports are waaaay off.
I very much doubt there is much to be found porting the runners. Would be nice to see though. You'd think a shop would do a true A vs B comparisons to try and sell a lot of their product. But they don't, so my guess is it's not worth much or else the results would demonstrate the value...
I very much doubt there is much to be found porting the runners. Would be nice to see though. You'd think a shop would do a true A vs B comparisons to try and sell a lot of their product. But they don't, so my guess is it's not worth much or else the results would demonstrate the value...
I think the runners are designed well from the get go also, but porting if done correctly is never a bad thing. I like how the 92 inlet was opened up to match the 95mm throttlebody.
12-31-2012, 01:18 AM
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Yeah, I don't know if I'd actually do it. If I were tuning it myself and had access to a dynojet down the street or something, I might consider doing a couple of A-B comparisons. I'd probably make a lot of enemies for calling out folks for how their products don't perform as advertised.
12-31-2012, 08:15 AM
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Subscribed! Cant wait to see what kind of power she puts down.
Out of curiousity is the TEA 799 has 15* or 13* valve angle? I believe you can get away with more intake duration with 13* valve angle.
Out of curiousity is the TEA 799 has 15* or 13* valve angle? I believe you can get away with more intake duration with 13* valve angle.
12-31-2012, 11:00 AM
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This is correct, they are still a 15* valve angle.
I will hopefully be able to see what kind of gains Advanced Inductions port work is worth on a Fast intake as I have another customer that is doing a very similar set-up to one I did before aside from the ported Fast. It won't be an A to B direct comparison, but it should give a rough idea of what the gains would be like.
If testing other products versus one another didn't cost as much as it does to do it, you guys would see a lot more direct comparisons done. It is very expensive and time consuming, but it is really cool when it is done and done correctly.
I will hopefully be able to see what kind of gains Advanced Inductions port work is worth on a Fast intake as I have another customer that is doing a very similar set-up to one I did before aside from the ported Fast. It won't be an A to B direct comparison, but it should give a rough idea of what the gains would be like.
If testing other products versus one another didn't cost as much as it does to do it, you guys would see a lot more direct comparisons done. It is very expensive and time consuming, but it is really cool when it is done and done correctly.
12-31-2012, 11:02 AM
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Like I said don't quote me on it.. If you wanted to hear it from the horses mouth then call TEA.
The TEA Stage II LS6 heads are very similiar to TFS 215's. The TFS have a 13.5 degree valve angle. If you go to the link below and read the description for the TEA heads, the description states: "Designed using the same 2.04 and 1.57 valves and valve job technology developed and used in the TrickFlow 215cc head this head has awesome mid-lift airflow."
http://www.totalengineairflow.com/pr...s2ls6-stage-2/
With that being said, if you really needed to know you could always call TEA. I'm not that worried about it. If you do find out, post it.
The TEA Stage II LS6 heads are very similiar to TFS 215's. The TFS have a 13.5 degree valve angle. If you go to the link below and read the description for the TEA heads, the description states: "Designed using the same 2.04 and 1.57 valves and valve job technology developed and used in the TrickFlow 215cc head this head has awesome mid-lift airflow."
http://www.totalengineairflow.com/pr...s2ls6-stage-2/
With that being said, if you really needed to know you could always call TEA. I'm not that worried about it. If you do find out, post it.
12-31-2012, 11:05 AM
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This is correct, they are still a 15* valve angle.
I will hopefully be able to see what kind of gains Advanced Inductions port work is worth on a Fast intake as I have another customer that is doing a very similar set-up to one I did before aside from the ported Fast. It won't be an A to B direct comparison, but it should give a rough idea of what the gains would be like.
If testing other products versus one another didn't cost as much as it does to do it, you guys would see a lot more direct comparisons done. It is very expensive and time consuming, but it is really cool when it is done and done correctly.
I will hopefully be able to see what kind of gains Advanced Inductions port work is worth on a Fast intake as I have another customer that is doing a very similar set-up to one I did before aside from the ported Fast. It won't be an A to B direct comparison, but it should give a rough idea of what the gains would be like.
If testing other products versus one another didn't cost as much as it does to do it, you guys would see a lot more direct comparisons done. It is very expensive and time consuming, but it is really cool when it is done and done correctly.