New cams from Tick Performance
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MArtin,
Do you think the LS2 Stg2 cam would require too much compression for people running LQ4s/LY6s and milled 243s? I have some 243s I want to send to TEA for their stg2 port package. I need to research how much compression I can safely gain.
Just tossing some ideas around.
Do you think the LS2 Stg2 cam would require too much compression for people running LQ4s/LY6s and milled 243s? I have some 243s I want to send to TEA for their stg2 port package. I need to research how much compression I can safely gain.
Just tossing some ideas around.
So if I'm understanding this correctly, it's more the overlap which determines how the car will drive...the 223/231 cam will drive just like a 230/238 cam like you said. A small cam that drives like a big cam...sacrificing power over the bigger cam while driving the same. So what's the point of getting that small cam when a bigger one has the same driving characteristics? I thought the whole point of a smaller cam that sacrifices power was for better drivability...but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Unless I'm understanding this all wrong?
Unless I'm understanding this all wrong?
Actually no. THe V3 torquer has nearly the exact same events as my Stage 2 for LS2 does. Only difference is they use different lobes. TSP uses more aggressive LSK and XER lobes on the V.3 IIRC.
Thank you very much Don!!! They all focus on mid-range and low-end power first, but as a great side effect they all make awesome peak power! Really is the best of both worlds.
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Martin,
This is Epifanio, the folk who ordered the custom cam for the 08 vette LS3. How many degrees of overlap will the cam that you spec'd me will have? Also, what lobes are you going to use?
Thanks!
Epi
This is Epifanio, the folk who ordered the custom cam for the 08 vette LS3. How many degrees of overlap will the cam that you spec'd me will have? Also, what lobes are you going to use?
Thanks!
Epi
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I think it would work great with either. I'm a fan of the HCR 219's because it keeps stock P to V and with a 273 degree @.006" duration and a 108 ICL you'd have great P to V to work with even with the highest amount of compression that Phil can squeeze out of the 241's which IIRC is 11.0:1. I would consider 10.9:1-11.0:1 static to be ideal with that camshaft. It will make for a definite eye opener in useable power and the amount of peak power a 223 degree cam can make.
No problem Epi!
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Which stage one the 223/231 .610"/.617" 110+2 or the 223/227 .610"/.614" 111+2?
I think it would work great with either. I'm a fan of the HCR 219's because it keeps stock P to V and with a 273 degree @.006" duration and a 108 ICL you'd have great P to V to work with even with the highest amount of compression that Phil can squeeze out of the 241's which IIRC is 11.0:1. I would consider 10.9:1-11.0:1 static to be ideal with that camshaft. It will make for a definite eye opener in useable power and the amount of peak power a 223 degree cam can make.
I think it would work great with either. I'm a fan of the HCR 219's because it keeps stock P to V and with a 273 degree @.006" duration and a 108 ICL you'd have great P to V to work with even with the highest amount of compression that Phil can squeeze out of the 241's which IIRC is 11.0:1. I would consider 10.9:1-11.0:1 static to be ideal with that camshaft. It will make for a definite eye opener in useable power and the amount of peak power a 223 degree cam can make.
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I was referring to the 223/227. The useable power is whats most important to me and Im not so much worried about peak power. From my research on here cams in that range will work best, Im just trying to figure out of the old 241s would be suitable or if I should look for some LS6 243s and send those to AI. Obiviously the LS6 243s are better heads but Im not sure if it is worth it for my goals.. I like these cams you came up with though, I hope their a big hit for you guys. Youve been offering up a lot of advice on here as of late and that will go a long way.
I always try to offer my advice to anyone willing to listen, it's just the type of person I am.
For anyone that hasn't seen the V.2's torque curve here is a before and after dyno graph of a bolt on M6 Trans Am with 1x7/8" headers, 3" true dual exhaust a LS6 intake, stock tb, stock MAF, SLP lid and stock 241 heads. The larger numbers are with the addition of the V.2 Polluter which makes it truly "cam-only":
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im looking for a cam for my car.. its a 1999 WS6 has a moser 9in and th350. the motor im building now is stock bottom end with ARP bolts/studs. i have PRC 5.3 2.5 heads and a FAST 90/90 set up.. what cam would you say is the best one to get? i was looking at the POLLUTER cam..untill i ran across these.. any help would be great..
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You don't have enough P to V clearance with that chamber volume and valve size to run the Polluter. You barely would have enough to run either of the Stage 3 SNS cams either, the LS2 version of the SNS Stage 3 has slightly more P to V than the LS1/LS6 version.
This is all assuming you don't want to fly-cut.
This is all assuming you don't want to fly-cut.
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sounds great im going to order it tonight or in the morning. im going to look up some videos of that cam iv never heard it. Thank you again for all the help. i was really worried about the P to V problem.
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Martin, I currently have the Thunder Racing TRAK cam with stock heads, but I am thinking about going with a little bit bigger cam with lower lift so it can be easier on the valvetrain, I am getting a set of Patriot Stage 2 LS6 heads 64cc, I believe the valves are 2.02/1.57. Currently with LS6 Intake but planning to get a FAST Intake in the Future, what Cam should fit my needs(POWER)???, I DD my car but don't mind sacrificing driveability. I Also have 4.10's (mods in sig)
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Martin, I currently have the Thunder Racing TRAK cam with stock heads, but I am thinking about going with a little bit bigger cam with lower lift so it can be easier on the valvetrain, I am getting a set of Patriot Stage 2 LS6 heads 64cc, I believe the valves are 2.02/1.57. Currently with LS6 Intake but planning to get a FAST Intake in the Future, what Cam should fit my needs(POWER)???, I DD my car but don't mind sacrificing driveability. I Also have 4.10's (mods in sig)