HCI2000SS

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For the reasons mentioned above or do you have some other reason?

Sales@Tick

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Find out what your timing is at first before you spray and pray.

Plugs are 1.50-2.00 a piece. It's really not that hard to change the plugs. If you're at least not going to read them or do it the right way, at the least put the proper heat range plug in it.

Will it blow up with the TR6's on a 75 shot with 28 degrees timing? Maybe not, but when it's so easy to do it right I just have a hard time not doing it that way.

dannyz

Where did he say he is running 28 degrees timing?

HCI2000SS

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Yes I am most definitely going to see where the timing is at first and go from there. If I do keep the plugs I will also make a few hits and then read them as well. I agree it's really cheap to get better plugs, but my main question was how come these are so bad when TONS of people used to run them successfully, and still do!! I mean if they are so damn questionable how come they are so popular with smaller shots of nitrous! The whole debate just has me really curious to be honest lol.

So what would definitely be too much timing for these plugs in your opinion? Anything over 28??

Detoxx03

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People already gave you advice and info on which plugs to use yet you still want to use the tr6's. if you don't want to listen be my guest.

HCI2000SS

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It's not that I don't want to listen, i'm just very interested as to why it's so risky to run the TR6's when 100's of people successfully do it on small shots of nitrous! I mean has spark plug technology and information changed that much in the last few years as to where a plug like the TR6 was a bad idea all along, and we are only NOW realizing it lol! I am not disputing the info being given here at all, but rather interested in the actual reasons behind it

batboy

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The reason we used to use it was because it was a colder range plug. Now we have non-projected plugs that are colder and way safer for nitrous. Why would you not buy the proper plug? Plugs are cheap compared to a destroyed motor. Just because I used to use the TR6 plug when I didn't know any better does not mean I would now. Man up and do the right thing.

Sales@Tick

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75% of H/C/I cars run 27-28* timing. It was an assumption.
Because people didn't know any better. Non projected tip plugs have been around for 20-30 years if not longer than that. Guys that have been running heavy amounts of nitrous for years can tell you that non-projected tip plugs have been in use for a long time.

You keep asking that your main question is why is it so bad that they did it and got by with it, but my main question is if it's so easy to do it right, why not?

Put a non projected tip plug in it, pull 3 degrees of timing for the 75 shot and voila you're doing it the way it should be done.

If you don't like the answers you're getting, just do it and don't tell anyone on-line that you did.

hellbents10

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I would run the Tr6s on a 75 shot any day of the week. I would however make sure the tune up is good!

I had a car come in from an expert tuner a couple weeks ago with 33* a 50hp shot and stock plugs lol.

HCI2000SS

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This is good...I appreciate all this info as it helps me learn instead of just doing something because someone on the internet says so lol

Sales@Tick

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Just make sure the timing isn't sky high as TJ alluded to, and while you have whoever you have verify what the timing is, have them pull 2-3 degrees out for the 75 shot and run the **** out of it.

HCI2000SS

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One last question for you...if I decide to not pull any timing on the 75 shot (of course if my timing isn't too advanced already) would running the proper non projected tip plug offer me more of a buffer? In other words would it offer me more of a safety net?

Sales@Tick

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Yes it would.

With our shop car, my race car and other customers race cars/street cars, the colder the plug we use, the more timing we are able to get in the motor safely while still achieving the desired plug reading that we're after.

HCI2000SS

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Perfect! That pretty much settles it then! So do you recommend the the br7ef's then? Would that be my absolute best choice for my setup and what I want to do?

Sales@Tick

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I would honestly run a BR6EF for what you're planning on. What is your static compression?

You could run that plug all the time without having to swap back and forth.

HCI2000SS

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Compression is 11.1 I believe. So the BR6EF won't affect my n/a performance in the slightest? No rougher idle, funny surging, etc...or anything? Would they be good to up to a 150 shot on my ride? I'll be eventually spraying a 125-150 when I pull some timing. Also where would you recommend gapping these plugs at? Thanks again!

HCI2000SS

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Also would there be any advantage or difference from a n/a standpoint between a BR6EF and BR7EF? I know the 7's are two steps colder vs the 6's being one step (thus the 7's being able to hold a larger shot) but my concern would be my naturally aspirated performance, idle quality, plug life duration and quality, etc...

Sales@Tick

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No it should not.

HCI2000SS

iTrader: (2)

So you are saying there should be no difference naturally aspirated between the BR6EF and the BR7EF then, and not over the TR6 either?

Sales@Tick

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Correct. It is a common internet myth that a colder plug loses power over a hotter plug.