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Mar 9, 2003 | 07:58 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

So for I have 232/240 .595/.609 on a 112 LSA with the X-ER ramps. Is there any advance ground into the cam?

Mar 9, 2003 | 08:33 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

Obsssed,
With all due respect, Can I at least keep that part secret?

Thanks
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Mar 9, 2003 | 08:56 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

Rageman went 11.5's with bolt-ons and 11.1's with the cam. Yes those are good numbers but when you post information like that ...especially in this case it is very important to include raceweight...otherwise your claims are very misleading. Kind of like saying it made 454rwhp when the last 4rwhp came from a spike, it actually made 450rwhp which is still very good. Not trying to be a jerk about it but I think it's only fair, you also loose credibility by inflating your claims like that.

With cam specs like that aren't you worried about PV clearance? I would recommend flycutting those pistons! Sure the spring pressures are high when the springs are new but when it starts to loose spring pressure after a few thousand miles some bad things can happen.

Mar 9, 2003 | 09:04 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

so does this cam require fly cutting the pistons?

How is the streetability of this cam? How's the idle? Could you pass emissions with this cam?

Lou, I'm thinking bout my purchasing your cam, I really like the 350+ ft lbs tq on the stock heads!
That would be perfect for my A4 project. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

11.1 @ 124 would suit me just fine.

Mar 9, 2003 | 09:06 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

The run was video taped, and you will see that the car is not lightened. Every engine builder has to think about valve to piston clearance with any cam if you mill off too much. Rageman's eigine has stock heads that have never been off. One of the important things is to use good springs so they don't give up on you as soon.

We are getting into some pretty high performance here, and more power takes more maintainence. If a guy wants an executive package, then he should get a smaller package.

Thanks,

Lou G LG Motorsports

Mar 9, 2003 | 09:07 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

What was Ragemans MPH before the cam?

Mar 9, 2003 | 09:13 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

Near future,

No flycutting on stock heads. As for the passing emmisions, probably not.
Anything other than a stock combo, needs to be measured, and given whatever it needs. As the valve size goes up, the v/p goes down.

We just finished an A4 car with our full G5X-2 cam and head package and it pulled 435rwhp, 403rwtq. We expect 10's with this car. It ran 11.06 in the middle of the summer with our G5 cam in it.

thanks

Mar 9, 2003 | 09:18 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by LG Motorsports:
 Obsssed,
With all due respect, Can I at least keep that part secret?

Thanks
LG <hr /></blockquote>No <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

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Mar 9, 2003 | 09:36 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

before i say this i am by no means bashing anyone, lets face it alans car is an animal. however his car is a stripper: no power windows, no power locks, etc. he also had no back seat, no power stearing, and no front bumper supports. like i said his car is still a beast, not to mention he can drive his *** off.

Mar 9, 2003 | 09:42 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

Yes that is correct, but he went from 11.5s to 11.1s and from 117mph to 124mph.
The track is still like a dyno. The only thing that changed was the cam and tuning. The "Beast" stayed the same. That would make it close to a before and after.
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Mar 9, 2003 | 10:16 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

Lou, great job on the G5X2!

You could prolly answer my question better than anyone else, would the G5X2 work with what i want to do with my car?

Here's my most recent post that hasnt got any replies yet https://ls1tech.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...c;f=1;t=011599

I look foward to your reply,
thanks, rich

Mar 9, 2003 | 10:34 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

I wanna ask again,

Lou I had a question a few months back if a 232/238 595 605 on a 112 would fit in a stock short block and you said no, so yours seems bigger and it fits, what am I missing here..

Matt

Mar 9, 2003 | 10:45 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

are these the drop in dual springs?

what do you folks think about a 20 mph (2000 rpm) dyno emissions test?

Sorry about asking again, but last time I asked, the thread was deleted before I saw a reply.

Mar 9, 2003 | 10:48 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Rageman went 11.5's with bolt-ons and 11.1's with the cam. <hr /></blockquote>is this true,lou/rageman? there was sooo much bashing and sceptisism at first, then the dyno now the track numbers. many people are coming around and thats cool, im even staring to accuallt look at this set up but not if its misleading
FACT- rage went 11.1x@12x with the cam
fact? rage went 11.5 w/boltons
to imply that this is a cam only car w/tuning and true duals and an M6. that runs 11.1s is impresive. is this the extent of the mods? inquring minds want to know.
THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO START A WAR, just revele info

Mar 9, 2003 | 10:50 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

How much PV clearance do you have with stock heads? I have 2.02 and 1.55 valves, stock 5.7 heads milled .005 (Cleanup only) Would I have enough clearance? I know I would need to check, but should I have enough clearance? Thanks, Shawn

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Mar 9, 2003 | 10:51 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

Lou,
I, as well as NataSS, are very interested in this cam. Since we're involved in ORR ( SSCC ), lapping days, etc I'm concerned about valvetrain issues. Are the lobe profiles too aggressive, in your opinion, for this application ? Would this cam cause me any durability issues running at 5500-6000+ rpm for 35 minutes straight ? Would another cam, in your opinion, be a better choice ?

Thanks

Mar 9, 2003 | 11:08 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Pro Stock John:
 Just rereading the thread again.

Tim98TA, please no more comments if you can't be constructive I assure you that your TR comments are not needed in any threads about LGM stuff. <hr /></blockquote>Never made any negative comments John. Just responded to someone elses comments about the same thing. SEVERAL others have commented negatively about TR and this issue, and those comments weren't constructive either.

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Mar 9, 2003 | 11:27 AM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by EuG:
Has anybody ever tried a cam that big (similar) in a 346ci before? If yes, what kind of numbers did it make?<hr /></blockquote>The cam in my car now is a 232/239 544/543 112LSA

Tim

Mar 9, 2003 | 01:40 PM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by BYBYC5:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Rageman went 11.5's with bolt-ons and 11.1's with the cam. <hr /></blockquote>is this true,lou/rageman? there was sooo much bashing and sceptisism at first, then the dyno now the track numbers. many people are coming around and thats cool, im even staring to accuallt look at this set up but not if its misleading
FACT- rage went 11.1x@12x with the cam
fact? rage went 11.5 w/boltons
to imply that this is a cam only car w/tuning and true duals and an M6. that runs 11.1s is impresive. is this the extent of the mods? inquring minds want to know.
THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO START A WAR, just revele info <hr /></blockquote>this is 110% factual coming from someone who has no relation to LG. All of alan's times are legit and I have the majority of them on tape or can find someone who was at the track that day to provide the footage. As for his mods, he posted them last week in his thread that got locked about the cam...this thing is the real deal!

Mar 9, 2003 | 01:57 PM

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Re: Now that the secret is out.......

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by LG Motorsports:
 Spanky,

Take your number one intake valve spring off with the piston at TDC, and tell me how much valve drop you have before the valve hits the piston. Then I can tell you if you have enough clearance with your current set up.

After you do this, give me a call, and we can figure it out.

LG <hr /></blockquote>How much P to V clearance do you have on stock heads? How much do you need as a minimum? My car is in storage, can't measure this right now. In your opinion,would it work? Heads have only been milled .005, and valves are 2.02 and 1.55.

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