tsp v2 vs tsp v3?
05-17-2013, 12:03 AM
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tsp v2 vs tsp v3? well since i believe my oil pump is going out i am going to pull the trigger on a heads and cam on my 98 ls1...
i want sick choppy idle..
was thinking of a tsp v2 vs the v3 ..any of you guys rocking either or..
any ideas on what to expect #'s?
witch one would you prefer?
i will more than likely be using stock 243s or 799's
i want sick choppy idle..
was thinking of a tsp v2 vs the v3 ..any of you guys rocking either or..
any ideas on what to expect #'s?
witch one would you prefer?
i will more than likely be using stock 243s or 799's
05-17-2013, 12:09 AM
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i had the tq3 long tubes 3800 stall made 390 after being heat soaked and through the factory 2 1/4 GTO cutback.. sounded great once i went to the 3'' exhaust
daily drove it it for 20k miles no issues and it loved some spray
daily drove it it for 20k miles no issues and it loved some spray
05-17-2013, 12:13 AM
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Definitely not the V3 unless you plan to drive very little and check the springs often. LSK lobes are not street lobes and shouldn't be in a street car.
V2 would be my choice between those 2, because of that.
But if you expanded the choices? Definitely not those two.
Tick has some good shelf cams and Martin can help you spec something out for your combo.
Geoff@EPS or Ed Curtis@Flowtech or PatG on here would also all get the nod.
I talked to all of them before selecting a custom grind.
Valvetrains shouldn't be thrown together. You see a lot of failed lifters, failed rockers, bent pushrods, and chewed up camshafts with improper valvetrain setups. Looking at an online store and selecting something IS NOT the way to do it.
V2 would be my choice between those 2, because of that.
But if you expanded the choices? Definitely not those two.
Tick has some good shelf cams and Martin can help you spec something out for your combo.
Geoff@EPS or Ed Curtis@Flowtech or PatG on here would also all get the nod.
I talked to all of them before selecting a custom grind.
Valvetrains shouldn't be thrown together. You see a lot of failed lifters, failed rockers, bent pushrods, and chewed up camshafts with improper valvetrain setups. Looking at an online store and selecting something IS NOT the way to do it.
05-17-2013, 08:38 AM
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Knowing what I know now about cam lobes I wouldn't pick the V3 either...and I have one installed in my car. It makes good power pretty much everywhere but there are so many other safer choices out there.
My car is a garage queen so I'm not too worried about engine damage. Plus I plan on changing it in a couple years when I go turbo anyway. H/C is ok but gets boring real quick.
My car is a garage queen so I'm not too worried about engine damage. Plus I plan on changing it in a couple years when I go turbo anyway. H/C is ok but gets boring real quick.
05-17-2013, 09:07 AM
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IMO the extra lift is wasted on stock heads which don't flow for snot up there anyway and you can get something that isn't as hard on the drivetrain without sacrificing power.
A friend has nearly the exact same cam as mine in a T/A and another has a car with a lsk lobed cam in the 230s in an SS and they match up very evenly as they sit (they both need some fine tuning, one on fueling and the other on timing).
A friend has nearly the exact same cam as mine in a T/A and another has a car with a lsk lobed cam in the 230s in an SS and they match up very evenly as they sit (they both need some fine tuning, one on fueling and the other on timing).
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05-17-2013, 09:18 AM
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I would definitely take some of the advice like JakeFusion gave you and look at a few other cams. I had the TQv3 in my car for awhile and it ran good but it eats up the valvetrain to much. Definitely give Martin@TICK a call and he can setup you up with a cam that'll make more power and be easier on your valvetrain. Look into the SNS stage 2 cams and the power they are making.
05-17-2013, 11:51 PM
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IMO the extra lift is wasted on stock heads which don't flow for snot up there anyway and you can get something that isn't as hard on the drivetrain without sacrificing power.
A friend has nearly the exact same cam as mine in a T/A and another has a car with a lsk lobed cam in the 230s in an SS and they match up very evenly as they sit (they both need some fine tuning, one on fueling and the other on timing).
A friend has nearly the exact same cam as mine in a T/A and another has a car with a lsk lobed cam in the 230s in an SS and they match up very evenly as they sit (they both need some fine tuning, one on fueling and the other on timing).
Its not worth it if you drive it much. Ive replaced broken springs rockers and pushrods in the last cpl months because of the mileage on such nasty lobes.
It makes good power, but its noisy as hell and beats the **** out of the rest of the drivetrain.
05-21-2013, 05:01 PM
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Noise isn't indicative of that cam if the valvetrain is setup correctly. Mine doesn't make a peep, quieter than stock.
I have seen posts where people claim 20k-30k miles on this cam without any problems with correct maintenance. There are just so may other options out there.
I have seen posts where people claim 20k-30k miles on this cam without any problems with correct maintenance. There are just so may other options out there.
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05-21-2013, 09:53 PM
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Ive got factory rockers with the trunion upgrade, btr springs and pushrods that were measured with .080 preload on ls7 lifters
Its setup pretty well, and its noisy as ****
Its setup pretty well, and its noisy as ****
05-22-2013, 08:41 AM
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I know I had to send back the PR's TSP sent me as they were too long. Could make a difference. Exhaust leaks cam amplify valvetrain noise too. Just saying the cam alone isn't a guarantee on a loud valvetrain. I also have LS7 lifters and stock rockers.
05-23-2013, 08:59 AM
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I went from a 230/224 XE lobe comp cam that was setup the same as my new 230/238 EPS/LSL lobed cam...night and day difference in valvetrain noise.
Sure it's not the only factor, but it can make a huge difference if the ramps close quickly. I considered the old setup to be pretty quiet, but the new one is much much quieter.
Sure it's not the only factor, but it can make a huge difference if the ramps close quickly. I considered the old setup to be pretty quiet, but the new one is much much quieter.
05-23-2013, 09:19 AM
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Almost 30k on my Tv2 112lsa ls7 lifter PRC double spring setup.
the car drives great and I put alot of miles on it every year.
I do want a bigger cam but its hard to justify all the work for that extra 20 hp.
the car drives great and I put alot of miles on it every year.
I do want a bigger cam but its hard to justify all the work for that extra 20 hp.
05-23-2013, 01:35 PM
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Just went through the same decision process. Spoke with TSP multiple times to make my decision. Their quoted spring life is the same with V2 or V3.
My car is only a weekend car so I went with the V3. All things being equal it was TSP's upgrade and response to the complaint that V2's were too top end. I spoke with 3 different TSP reps and they all advised V3 over V2.
My car is only a weekend car so I went with the V3. All things being equal it was TSP's upgrade and response to the complaint that V2's were too top end. I spoke with 3 different TSP reps and they all advised V3 over V2.
