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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:06 PM
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The LS2 has a 4.00 bore. Can it safely be taken to 4.030? No boost/juice.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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According to J. Potak's book the listed max bore is 4.020" with a footnote that states that the 4.02 is a Factory Specification but 4.030" is obtainable.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 10:10 PM
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Thanks!

I have that book.....
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 10:15 PM
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This works out nicely. 4.030 with a 4.125 stroke makes 421 inch-a 71 inch bump my my tired high mileage LS1.

Now for some nice heads....
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 10:49 PM
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I would keep the motor square to reduce potential oil consumption issues.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 10:58 PM
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yes, that's something to consider.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 11:57 PM
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A 403 (4.005x4) or 404 (4.010x4) would give you a nice boost with a good set of heads. 530rwhp is attainable with the right setup with a 402. 550+ is possibly as well if you're willing to go all out. That's a nice bump over where you are now.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
I would keep the motor square to reduce potential oil consumption issues.

Excuse my ignorance. By square do you mean match bore to stroke? How is oil consumption increased? Thanks
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Yes, see when increasing stroke you bring the piston further down in the cylinder which exposes the bottom of the piston out of sleeve further at BDC. This action allows the piston to rock more and eventually can lead to an increase in oil blow by consumption.
One could resleeve with longer sleeves and that helps if one is set on running bigger than 4.00 stoke.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Yes, see when increasing stroke you bring the piston further down in the cylinder which exposes the bottom of the piston out of sleeve further at BDC. This action allows the piston to rock more and eventually can lead to an increase in oil blow by consumption.
One could resleeve with longer sleeves and that helps if one is set on running bigger than 4.00 stoke.
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Originally Posted by predator-z
yes, see when increasing stroke you bring the piston further down in the cylinder which exposes the bottom of the piston out of sleeve further at bdc. This action allows the piston to rock more and eventually can lead to an increase in oil blow by consumption.
One could resleeve with longer sleeves and that helps if one is set on running bigger than 4.00 stoke.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 11:11 AM
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My goal is to reach 427 inches-or so. The LS7 block is rather costly. With a four inch stroke, it'll have longer sleeves? Are the sleeves in a LS3 block as long as in the LS7 block?
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Bell
My goal is to reach 427 inches-or so. The LS7 block is rather costly. With a four inch stroke, it'll have longer sleeves? Are the sleeves in a LS3 block as long as in the LS7 block?
Nope.
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I wouldn't get hung up on the couple of cubes a max bore will buy you. Bore it what it *needs* to clean up, you'll have a more stable bore under power and make more power as well as being more durable.
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LS3 block + 4.100" stroke would be an okay combination. 4.07" x 4.1" would get you 427 on the nose. Wiseco makes pistons for the 4.100" stroke that reduce some of the oil consumption issues. However, you end up with a thin crown on the piston, so it's pretty much an NA only setup or very mild boost/nitrous. It's only a little bit more expensive than the LS2 and a cheaper alternative to the LS7.
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An easy way to decide your combo: Divide your rod length by the stroke, if the number is lower than 1.50, try and avoid it. A 6.125"rod length divided by 4.0 =1.53, still reasonable. A 6.125 length divded by 4.250' =1.44, not so much.
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Lots of good new info for me
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 05:41 PM
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Nope.
Hey KCS thanks for that. Could you elaborate? What is the difference in length?
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Originally Posted by The_Bishop
I wouldn't get hung up on the couple of cubes a max bore will buy you.
YEP. That's why I'm not looking at a 441.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 64post
An easy way to decide your combo: Divide your rod length by the stroke, if the number is lower than 1.50, try and avoid it. A 6.125"rod length divided by 4.0 =1.53, still reasonable. A 6.125 length divided by 4.250' =1.44, not so much.
I'm looking at rods at 6.125 and a stroke at 4.125. The resultant ratio is 1.48.

The rotating assembly I'm looking at is the new kits from Wiseco with K1 cranks & rods-unless somebody think's it's not a good product/kit.

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