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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 02:51 AM
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well there it is, from the man himself.
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 03:01 AM
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Tony's intakes are the business end of the ****, no two which ways about it, i had him port one and ship it down to my neck of the woods, the finish was outstanding and upon pulling it to bits it was like art work, every port was symmetrical and was ridiculous for being done by hand, after installing it we picked up 40 RWHP with his ported 102 over the LS6 on a **** tune that was less than ideal and far from being optimised just through his handy work, not to mention the car was super explosive off throttle at anywhere in the RPM range on my little 346, if your serious about getting some trick gear and wanting the most from your H/C combo its worth every cent.............as you can see this was a direct result

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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 10:49 AM
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so do u need new rails for mounting on an ls1 ?dumwhat all is needed for the lsxr install? and is a 90mm tb ok for it on stock cubes(lts ory not too crazy cam and ported heads)
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ablkbrd
lot of busn with speed inc , very happy. going with the 102.. what do i need besides the throttle body? cable bracket? fuel rails? thinking of using prof products ls2 tb
This question never got answered. I think you also need a skinny style injector as well. I wish there was a simple list on here for a 102 swap, maybe there is??
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 11:14 AM
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This thread has been the best FAST thread I've read. 102 FTW.
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 11:26 AM
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i see what u did there lol. just searched it
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 01:51 PM
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That ^^^^ is sick
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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Looks great Tony! Is that my intake??

Check is in the mail!!!

Originally Posted by Tony Mamo @ AFR
Without a doubt.....its a poor mans plastic tunnel ram!

Its a bad azz piece....it would be under the hood of my Vette if I didn't need a Pro-Stock style scoop to fit it!

It will make more power and torque than any of the other FAST intakes

Here's what it looks like after taking it apart.....a straight(ish) shot to the cylinder head with a sweet trumpet entrance



A pic of one ported (half ported actually....I didn't do the runner exits yet)

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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RezinTexas
Looks great Tony! Is that my intake??

Check is in the mail!!!
Actually no....LOL

But yours will look like a carbon copy of it!

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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 10:46 PM
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Is there any issue running the 102 with an slp lid?
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 12:05 AM
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Tony,

Is there a difference in runner length between the truck intake and the car version?

Flow difference for the runners?

Ron
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 01:27 AM
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Tony,

Is there a difference in runner length between the truck intake and the car version?

Flow difference for the runners?

Ron
Main difference is the straight shot at the port and the perfect angle approaching it....not to mention the generous radiused bellmouths around each runner (which I tweak a little better with the ported versions). Also, the plenum is more ideal....it's much larger so there is more air to draw from.

I can look down the runner of a ported LSXRT and see the back of the intake valve if its installed on the head....no exaggeration.

Look at this thing....seeing it on the engine with the big ole bonnet removed gives you a better understanding of why its so kick azz! (note this intake is not ported yet)




It doesn't get much better than that honestly....

Want a real world example of just how good this manifold is....look at the before and after dyno curve below. This was a 6.0 truck engine with stock heads and a big cam (240's at .050)....this shows the gains going to one of my ported LSXRT "truck" intakes....what's crazy about this is larger net gains would have been seen if his heads were killer aftermarket heads because the better the heads the larger the gains from a performance intake swap (due to the fact a stock intake cant keep up with a higher flowing aftermarket head so the net gains are always greater when you install a moire efficient higher flowing intake).





Guys....if you have the room to install this intake don't think twice about it!

And let me port one for you if you want all the money from the install

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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 03:28 AM
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Has anyone ever tried installing one of these on an fbody?
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 04:08 AM
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Hi, just new to this forum, as I live in Australia, and have a ls2 which is going in to get the heads ported as they are not that great standard of course, and 232/234 cam. After another mate put the fast 102 intake on his ls2 it's got me keen to follow and do the whole lot to make the car go well, he recommended it for sure,

My big thing is with it, is do you need the bigger throttle body? Ie 102 TB or best to stay with standard one which I'm thinking will be adequate?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks all
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Carwyn Gerard Butler
Hi, just new to this forum, as I live in Australia, and have a ls2 which is going in to get the heads ported as they are not that great standard of course, and 232/234 cam. After another mate put the fast 102 intake on his ls2 it's got me keen to follow and do the whole lot to make the car go well, he recommended it for sure,

My big thing is with it, is do you need the bigger throttle body? Ie 102 TB or best to stay with standard one which I'm thinking will be adequate?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks all
Welcome,

This is arguably the best LS related forum....there isn't much you will run into that isn't covered in detail somewhere in the archives of this forum (get familiar with the search engine....search is your friend).

Regarding you 102 vs 90mm (stock GM) TB question....a ported 90 would only be about 5 RWHP behind the 102 in power output....an unported 90 might be 8-10.

The 102 will have slightly more response....IMO if your running a cable operated system, take the plunge on the 102....their less expensive and easier to tune than a 102 drive by wire set-up. If your running a drive by wire set-up and your looking for "all the money" from the swap, a 102 is still the way to go but you may want to consult with your tuner to make sure he is OK with tuning that unit. Its alot more finicky and some tuners will never provide you with stock like drivability with the ETC 102's.....the more aggressive the cam the harder and more difficult it is to tune.

Summary....if your application has a cable operated throttle pretty much take the plunge....with an ETC style (electronic throttle control) you may want to do some more homework before you decide to take the plunge. A properly ported 90mm OEM unit is much easier to tune and will only cost you about 5 ponies.

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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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Thanks mate, yes it's Fbw setup on Aussie cars here, but they can tune it, it was a mate who said not to bother with a bigger TB just put the FAST 102 intake on and I would be happy with the whole combo I described
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Carwyn Gerard Butler
Thanks mate, yes it's Fbw setup on Aussie cars here, but they can tune it, it was a mate who said not to bother with a bigger TB just put the FAST 102 intake on and I would be happy with the whole combo I described
Well....now you know what your giving up so its up to you whether you deem the additional cost worth it. I cant sleep leaving 2 HP on the table so Im running an ETC 102 on my set-up.....LOL

Good luck with the build!

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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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Thanks Tony, yeah another turner suggested it as well, just staying with the standard 90mm TB as only gains really seen would be on a bigger capacity motor, plus I thought for the extra $800 they want to fit I may compromise a little power down low? Too much info does my head in, lol
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Carwyn Gerard Butler
Thanks Tony, yeah another turner suggested it as well, just staying with the standard 90mm TB as only gains really seen would be on a bigger capacity motor, plus I thought for the extra $800 they want to fit I may compromise a little power down low? Too much info does my head in, lol
No....wives tale on the loss of low end power. The TB is just an air blade.....it doesn't meter or atomize fuel where you have to worry about low RPM sluggishness. Wish I had a buck for all of the people that thought that was true though.

Anyway....it will make similar low RPM power.....just make more upstairs as the air demand of the engine goes higher.

-Tony
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 1320Chicken
Has anyone ever tried installing one of these on an fbody?
Pretty sure Studderin did a write up on the that (LSXRT)

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