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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 09:43 AM
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I need to clean out the threads on my block for my heads, and the threads are way down there... Has anyone found or made (an extension) to get a tap all the way to the bottom threads?

I have the ARP bolts and they are very unforgiving on any trash.

Any help appreciated!
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 09:58 AM
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Take an old head bolt and cut the threads off on one side. Then you can use it to pull trash out.

Also, take a clean lint free rag or (gasp a paper towel) and roll it tightly to get into the threads. It'll take a while, but do that to get out any coolant or oil.

Once that's done, you can take the old bolt and remove debris.

Then use air to blow out any remaining crap.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
Take an old head bolt and cut the threads off on one side. Then you can use it to pull trash out.

Also, take a clean lint free rag or (gasp a paper towel) and roll it tightly to get into the threads. It'll take a while, but do that to get out any coolant or oil.

Once that's done, you can take the old bolt and remove debris.

Then use air to blow out any remaining crap.
Thank ya, sir!

Wouldn't have thought of taking the threads off one side of a old bolt to clean it... But I can see how that would work. Sounds like you've done this before.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 10:18 AM
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Yes. Talk about a horrible thing.

Btw, I'm about to do it again. I'm draining all of the coolant out while the engine is on the stand. Then I'm blowing compressed air through it. I'm going to make it much easier this go around lol.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 10:20 AM
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ARP does make a thread chaser, but it is expensive. Don't use a tap whatever you do you will remove aluminum if you do.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 12:40 PM
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^^^ work patiently. These threads are very soft (as I'm sure you know)
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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Here you go: (Big bolts) http://www.summitracing.com/parts/arp-912-0011

(Little bolts): http://www.summitracing.com/parts/arp-912-0001
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
ARP does make a thread chaser, but it is expensive. Don't use a tap whatever you do you will remove aluminum if you do.
Listen to this guy ^^

Don't use a tap, don't cut a bolt and use it as a chase. BUY THE CORRECT TOOL!

Is your block valued enough to to you to spend $40 on the ARP tool? No risk of damaging the threads or messing the block up. The tool is designed to clean the threads and it works awesome. It's worth every penny and does have good re-sale value.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 01:32 PM
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TOTALLY back up what they said about not using a tap. There are undersized taps as well as chaser taps to do this very thing just whatever you do

Do some pre-soak with a good penetrating oil

Dont force it... if it feels wrong it probably is!

Before you buy the ARP tool try asking your local hardware store for chaser taps/undersize taps. Most of the time places that supply to machine shops will have exactly what you are looking for.

Take your time! and make sure you clean REALLY good after.
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Originally Posted by badazz81z28
Listen to this guy ^^

Don't use a tap, don't cut a bolt and use it as a chase. BUY THE CORRECT TOOL!

Is your block valued enough to to you to spend $40 on the ARP tool? No risk of damaging the threads or messing the block up. The tool is designed to clean the threads and it works awesome. It's worth every penny and does have good re-sale value.
Why couldn't you cut the bolt and use it? It looks EXACTLY like the ARP tool. Sometimes people spend money to spend money.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 02:33 PM
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exactly i've done this method multiple times. I take an old head bolt and cut slits into it with an angle grinder so it looks like a tap and then simply thread it into all the holes and blow out with air. never had an issue.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
Why couldn't you cut the bolt and use it? It looks EXACTLY like the ARP tool. Sometimes people spend money to spend money.
Because it's not the same. The bolt for one..you have to ensure you cut it right and ensure there are no burs or jacked up threads created by the cutting process.

Also the ARP tool is not simply a bolt with the sides ground down. It is slightly over sized and shaped to actually clean the threads. I have used both methods and even after several passes with the bolt, the studs would not go right in. (I was trying to be cheap and not purchase the 8mm chaser). In the end I did buy it. I used studs on my engine and after using the ARP chaser the studs went right in with no force or tools. I ended up selling both tools and only $10-$15 out of my pocket. It's a no brainer in my opinion. Does the OP want to do it right? Or good enough? Engines are too expensive to cut corners to easy solutions.

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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 02:59 PM
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Gun cleaning rod with a wire/plastic brush. Worked great for me. 12ga is a little too much, but the .40 or .45 should work great. I used one close to the size of a .45. Stick it down and brush all the crap out and then use air to blow it out when completed.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 04:14 PM
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The thread chasers are definitely worth it, Ive used mine several times. You can find them a bit cheaper. Heres where I got mine

https://www.mdrtuning.com/ls1-ls6-he...leaning-chaser
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Treyvs
Gun cleaning rod with a wire/plastic brush. Worked great for me. 12ga is a little too much, but the .40 or .45 should work great. I used one close to the size of a .45. Stick it down and brush all the crap out and then use air to blow it out when completed.
I def would NOT do this on an Aluminum block!
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 04:48 PM
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I taped a straw to my wet vac to get all the coolant out.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by badazz81z28
I def would NOT do this on an Aluminum block!
You are correct. I failed to mention that this was used on a 5.3L Iron block. Worked like a charm.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 05:09 PM
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I've used cut bolts to clean aluminum threads before. So long as you're careful, it'll do just fine.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 05:21 PM
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I have both ARP tools. The one for the small bolt holes also works with many other bolt holes on the engine as well. water pump, valley cover, front cover, rear cover, etc. Well worth the money.
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 08:03 AM
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As much as I hate to say it, you really need to use the ARP tool. I ground down an old head bolt and made a perfect chaser, ran it through each hole twice, then when I tried to put one of the new bolts in it was impossible to go past 1 or 2 threads by hand.

I mic'd up the bolts and saw the diameter of the threads on the ARP bolts were .005 wider then the stock bolt. So I gave in and ordered the ARP tool and that was .004 bigger then the ARP bolts (.009 bigger then the "chaser" made out of an old head bolt).

Also FWIW I still had to run that ARP tool through each hole at least twice before I stopped getting thread cheese out of them...
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