Your thoughts on this cam?
02-21-2014, 03:17 PM
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Your thoughts on this cam? Ultimately I'd like to have a near max-effort EPS cam in the mid-high 230s with around .6" of lift. However, the car won't be set up for a big cam for a couple years.
I found a good deal locally on a used Comp cam and was wanting to know how you guys think it would work for me.
Current set-up: 02 Trans am M6
85 mm lid and maf
ported/polished tb
LS6 intake
Kooks 1 7/8 headers with dual 3' cutouts
Tick mc
pro 5.0
founders rod/poly lca's and phb
Koni/Strano
The cam is an XE-R lobe 224/230 .581'/.588' on a 114 LSA. According to Comp the powerband starts at 2k so I'm hoping this can hold me over till I get a rear with more gear and bigger cam.
The car isn't my DD but I drive it alot and I don't mind the driving issues of a big cam. With the price of this cam I can still get a clutch, long torque arm and replace my worn drag radials.
Could I see over 420 hp and a decent tq curve with this cam?
I found a good deal locally on a used Comp cam and was wanting to know how you guys think it would work for me.
Current set-up: 02 Trans am M6
85 mm lid and maf
ported/polished tb
LS6 intake
Kooks 1 7/8 headers with dual 3' cutouts
Tick mc
pro 5.0
founders rod/poly lca's and phb
Koni/Strano
The cam is an XE-R lobe 224/230 .581'/.588' on a 114 LSA. According to Comp the powerband starts at 2k so I'm hoping this can hold me over till I get a rear with more gear and bigger cam.
The car isn't my DD but I drive it alot and I don't mind the driving issues of a big cam. With the price of this cam I can still get a clutch, long torque arm and replace my worn drag radials.
Could I see over 420 hp and a decent tq curve with this cam?
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02-21-2014, 03:34 PM
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That's not a big cam. Nothing wrong with it, but if I were in your shoes I would just go ahead and order a bigger EPS cam now instead of doing it twice.
We put a 230/238 113+2 EPS cam in my room mates Trans Am which has the same mods as you except stock MAF and it drives perfect and pulls hard. He drove it with the stock gears and it was perfectly fine but got even better with 4.10s in a Ford 8.8" rear. So you could probably get away with even bigger if you have a good tuner.
Otherwise you will be paying twice for a tune, changing springs again, doing all the labor twice, etc. If you get a mid size EPS cam now you can just add heads later or divert your money to other things.
If that just plain isn't in the cards, the cam you posted will be ok but I have serious doubts of it getting much over 390rwhp. The XE-R lobes are said to be hard on valvetrain too but I'm not an expert on that.
We put a 230/238 113+2 EPS cam in my room mates Trans Am which has the same mods as you except stock MAF and it drives perfect and pulls hard. He drove it with the stock gears and it was perfectly fine but got even better with 4.10s in a Ford 8.8" rear. So you could probably get away with even bigger if you have a good tuner.
Otherwise you will be paying twice for a tune, changing springs again, doing all the labor twice, etc. If you get a mid size EPS cam now you can just add heads later or divert your money to other things.
If that just plain isn't in the cards, the cam you posted will be ok but I have serious doubts of it getting much over 390rwhp. The XE-R lobes are said to be hard on valvetrain too but I'm not an expert on that.
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Will it run fine, sure will. Will it make 420rwhp? No, but who cares really. You can make the dyno spit out whatever numbers you want if itll make you feel better.
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Thanks Thunderstruck that's exactly the type of feedback I'm looking for. I was really concerned about the gearing but it only sees the track a few times a year... most ppl I run into want to roll race anyways.
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Thanks. If I don't get this used cam I'll look into you guys next year. My budget doesn't allow for a new custom grind and the other things I need. A clutch is a MUST for me to do any racing this year.
02-22-2014, 09:18 PM
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The new 918s would be ok. A dual spring would be better yes.
We do understand budgets and new cams are expensive and getting a used cam will save money in the beginning. But if you swap again, you are out more money at that time.
Thank you for keeping us in mind. We will be waiting.
We do understand budgets and new cams are expensive and getting a used cam will save money in the beginning. But if you swap again, you are out more money at that time.
Thank you for keeping us in mind. We will be waiting.
02-22-2014, 09:56 PM
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Custom cams change based on the supporting mods... mainly heads. Going with milled/ported heads with larger valves will both help a bigger cam and hurt PtV clearance.
If it fits in the stock shortblock, it doesn't mean it's ideally matched for your combo. And if unwilling to flycut, you may never get the ideal combo for a big cam.
To the OP: the 224/230 is a good cam. It will work well with heads. And you will have room to mill a bit. And you won't need much more than 11:1 to optimize it.
If it fits in the stock shortblock, it doesn't mean it's ideally matched for your combo. And if unwilling to flycut, you may never get the ideal combo for a big cam.
To the OP: the 224/230 is a good cam. It will work well with heads. And you will have room to mill a bit. And you won't need much more than 11:1 to optimize it.
02-22-2014, 09:56 PM
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Custom cams change based on the supporting mods... mainly heads. Going with milled/ported heads with larger valves will both help a bigger cam and hurt PtV clearance.
If it fits in the stock shortblock, it doesn't mean it's ideally matched for your combo. And if unwilling to flycut, you may never get the ideal combo for a big cam.
To the OP: the 224/230 is a good cam. It will work well with heads. And you will have room to mill a bit. And you won't need much more than 11:1 to optimize it.
If it fits in the stock shortblock, it doesn't mean it's ideally matched for your combo. And if unwilling to flycut, you may never get the ideal combo for a big cam.
To the OP: the 224/230 is a good cam. It will work well with heads. And you will have room to mill a bit. And you won't need much more than 11:1 to optimize it.