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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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I can't figure out if this sound is normal or not. Its like a high pitched metallic sound. Only does it at idle, goes away when revved up. For all I know this is normal for this cam. Any suggestions on what it could be would be very appreciated. I've listened to a lot of other asa cammed cars online and i don't hear this noise but then again its hard to tell sometimes with computer speakers. Car is a 2000 Camaro SS with stock ls1 lower end, stock 799 heads, GM ASA cam-226/236 .525/.525 110lsa, LS6 springs, LS6 intake,Comp cams trunnion upgrade, Brian Tooley slow leak rate lifters-.075 preload, ls6 oil pump, cloyes timing gear set, stock exhaust manifolds, custom y-pipe with cats, hooker muffler. For some reason I couldn't upload the video I took so I put it on Youtube. Thanks.
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Apparently the video did upload.
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 09:22 PM
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Does the car have a tune?
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I have only tuned it somewhat in the idle region just to get it to idle ok. I have not driven it yet. The weather is still too nasty here in Michigan. I tune it myself with hptuners. I could post up my current tune tonight when i get home if you think it could be tune related.
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 09:33 AM
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Your preload is set a little high. How did you measure your preload? If I were you I would back it down to .030"-.040".
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 10:10 AM
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I'd pull timing back a degree or two just to see if thay changes the sound at all. But your preload could also have something to do with it.
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I've changed preload all around. .050,.075,.100. I used the comp cams checker. Doesn't make a difference at all. Idle timing is set at 24 degrees. To me it almost sounds like the valves pinging but like I said before I've never heard this noise on any other cammed car. Its driving me crazy.
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Any other suggestions would be much appreciated
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Do you know where exactly the sound is coming from?
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 10:47 AM
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It sounds like its coming from the exhaust manifolds
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 11:55 AM
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Man im really not sure... part of me wants to say detonation but I don't want you chasing your tail. I know a lot of those cars do make weird sounds after a cam swap. I don't want to tell you that its nothing though.
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 12:22 PM
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Yeah I understand. Maybe I'll try one of those top engine cleaners just to see if the sound changes at all.
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 12:52 PM
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How long has the car been sitting? Bad gas maybe?
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 03:05 PM
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It's been sitting for months but I start it and let it run awhile at least once a week. I keep filling it up using a 5 gallon can with 93 when it gets a little low
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 04:40 PM
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Im really lost maybe pull the valve covers and turn the motor over by hand and make sure everything has enough clearance
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I have already done that numerous times changing pushrods for different preloads
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 09:57 PM
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I ran the car again tonight to get the raf dialed in. Afterwards I started to play with the vcm controls in hptuners. I moved the timing, afr and rpms all over the place and none of it made a difference with the noise. It does go away at 1500 rpms. The valvetrain is the quietest it has ever been under the hood, i dont hear the noise at all but under the car is a different story.
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Did the heads get milled? I've showed your video to a couple people and too many of them say that it is normal but I don't think so.. slim chance but maybe your valves and you pistons are getting to know each other too good? I could be wrong and this could be a normal sound but coming from the manifolds? I assume this doesn't go away once the car is warm? Scratch the valves meeting pistons that'd ger worse with rpm. Doea it sound like its every cylinder making this sound?
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 10:22 PM
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Did you run the car with no belts yet. That's always the first step. If it stops, you know it's accessory related.

It sounds like a pulley to me or your harmonic balancer is wobbling causing the noise. I had that happen to my car.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 10:24 PM
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As bazaar as it sounds you may be hearing the valves closing against the seats. The headers amplify the sound.
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