INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!!
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Re: INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!! Jason,
Congrats on the cam....glad I was able to make it over in time to hear you fire it up <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> That idle is MEAN!!! Wish I could have made it out earlier to help.
BTW....what does your wife think?! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Take it easy,
Neil
P.S. BigBos, Jason's cam fit without any PTV issues.
Congrats on the cam....glad I was able to make it over in time to hear you fire it up <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> That idle is MEAN!!! Wish I could have made it out earlier to help.
BTW....what does your wife think?! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Take it easy,
Neil
P.S. BigBos, Jason's cam fit without any PTV issues.
Re: INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!! Andrew, I would like to point out some things here: First off, thank you for setting Alans Idle. It was over looked among the 3 cars that were tuned the same day as his <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Does the Idle need to be raised? You bet. Most likely another 100 rpms or so, along with a nice coldstart program. I have all of these #s worked out, and Alan will let you know how the drivability improves after sunday. He had the cam in there with no drivability tuning what so ever.
Does it drive Like stock? for the most part anything over 12-1300 rpms its fine. The bucking is at a minemum compared to some other cams.
FWIW, here in Indiana with the snow we have had lately, Alex's (bigSS) car has no more idle/coldstart trouble since the LS1edit tune @ speedinc. As far as my car goes, Same cam- I can sit in the car with my right foot on the clutch to start it, giving it no gas what so ever, and it will fire right up. No surging, searching, or stalling <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> There is more to a cam than just the raw lift and duration #s <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Does the Idle need to be raised? You bet. Most likely another 100 rpms or so, along with a nice coldstart program. I have all of these #s worked out, and Alan will let you know how the drivability improves after sunday. He had the cam in there with no drivability tuning what so ever.
Does it drive Like stock? for the most part anything over 12-1300 rpms its fine. The bucking is at a minemum compared to some other cams.
FWIW, here in Indiana with the snow we have had lately, Alex's (bigSS) car has no more idle/coldstart trouble since the LS1edit tune @ speedinc. As far as my car goes, Same cam- I can sit in the car with my right foot on the clutch to start it, giving it no gas what so ever, and it will fire right up. No surging, searching, or stalling <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> There is more to a cam than just the raw lift and duration #s <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Re: INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BIGBOS:
<strong> I would like to know about the P to V clearance...I can't see it not being a problem... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">When the valve bounces off the piston,it makes
it seat 'faster' therefore,making it ramp harder,
therefore,making more power. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Your crazy to run a cam that big! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
(unless you run proper muffler bearings and
a high flow kanuten valve) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />
<strong> I would like to know about the P to V clearance...I can't see it not being a problem... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">When the valve bounces off the piston,it makes
it seat 'faster' therefore,making it ramp harder,
therefore,making more power. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Your crazy to run a cam that big! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
(unless you run proper muffler bearings and
a high flow kanuten valve) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />
Re: INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!! There y'all go talking about me again!!! This thing drives VERY well for not having any driveability tuning. Well, I guess it does now that Andrew raised the idle speed 75 RPM's. But, still, as Louis mentioned, I will be getting some more tuning on Sunday, and I'll let everyone know how it does.
Take care, fellas.
<small>[ March 13, 2003, 04:00 PM: Message edited by: RAGEman ]</small>
Take care, fellas.
<small>[ March 13, 2003, 04:00 PM: Message edited by: RAGEman ]</small>
Re: INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 30th TA 0219:
<strong> Hate to sound <img border="0" alt="[rainbow]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_rainbow.gif" /> but how is this awesome cam affecting Gas Mileage? I'm sure none of you have been able to keep your foot out of it long enough to tell, but I was really wondering. My car is becoming more and more of a funtime car, but I like to pack it up in th summer and take off on roadtrips, and the mileage plays a pretty big factor, especially with ga$ price$ lately <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well if you buy this cam, along with any other cam I dont think you are careing about gas mileage anyway <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> butI did drive the car about 150 miles today and managed 23 MPG with like 5 1/4mile blastest in there also....so its not bad at all
Damn..this cam seems more impressive everytime I drive it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong> Hate to sound <img border="0" alt="[rainbow]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_rainbow.gif" /> but how is this awesome cam affecting Gas Mileage? I'm sure none of you have been able to keep your foot out of it long enough to tell, but I was really wondering. My car is becoming more and more of a funtime car, but I like to pack it up in th summer and take off on roadtrips, and the mileage plays a pretty big factor, especially with ga$ price$ lately <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well if you buy this cam, along with any other cam I dont think you are careing about gas mileage anyway <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> butI did drive the car about 150 miles today and managed 23 MPG with like 5 1/4mile blastest in there also....so its not bad at all
Damn..this cam seems more impressive everytime I drive it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by I8AFORD:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 95Compta:
<strong> Are you still using the stock gears, clutch with this cam? I didn't see them in your sig <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Stock Clutch and gears...for now.. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wow with stock gears your not getting any low speed surging, if so, that's Damn good <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 95Compta:
<strong> Are you still using the stock gears, clutch with this cam? I didn't see them in your sig <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Stock Clutch and gears...for now.. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wow with stock gears your not getting any low speed surging, if so, that's Damn good <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Re: INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!! Stock Head= No Flycutting.
2.02 valves + unmilled head= No Fly cutting
Call with your particular set up, and I can advise you on what you need.
But with a stock head there is nothing required. Just slide the cam in, and change the springs. We have the double springs that we feel are needed for best power and reliability.
Thanks,
Lou Gigliotti LG Motorsports 972-272-7753
2.02 valves + unmilled head= No Fly cutting
Call with your particular set up, and I can advise you on what you need.
But with a stock head there is nothing required. Just slide the cam in, and change the springs. We have the double springs that we feel are needed for best power and reliability.
Thanks,
Lou Gigliotti LG Motorsports 972-272-7753
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Re: INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BIGBOS:
<strong> I would like to know about the P to V clearance...I can't see it not being a problem... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think that with stock heads, or ported heads that aren't milled, there won't be a problem, because remember, the LG Cam is actually a Comp Cams grind, and the Comp cams have a .030" smaller base circle which is going to give more room for PVC.
Once you start putting in milled heads for higher compression, then I would worry.
<strong> I would like to know about the P to V clearance...I can't see it not being a problem... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think that with stock heads, or ported heads that aren't milled, there won't be a problem, because remember, the LG Cam is actually a Comp Cams grind, and the Comp cams have a .030" smaller base circle which is going to give more room for PVC.
Once you start putting in milled heads for higher compression, then I would worry.
Re: INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Constrictor 98TA:
<strong> I think that with stock heads, or ported heads that aren't milled, there won't be a problem, because remember, the LG Cam is actually a Comp Cams grind, and the Comp cams have a .030" smaller base circle which is going to give more room for PVC.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is incorrect. What bearing does the fact that the base circle is reduced have on piston-to-valve clearance? With a reduced base-circle, you'll have to run a longer pushrod in order to maintain correct valve-train geometry. Between that, and the hydraulic lash uptake of the lifter, there won't be any difference in P/V/C. Just think about it, and you'll see what I mean. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
<strong> I think that with stock heads, or ported heads that aren't milled, there won't be a problem, because remember, the LG Cam is actually a Comp Cams grind, and the Comp cams have a .030" smaller base circle which is going to give more room for PVC.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is incorrect. What bearing does the fact that the base circle is reduced have on piston-to-valve clearance? With a reduced base-circle, you'll have to run a longer pushrod in order to maintain correct valve-train geometry. Between that, and the hydraulic lash uptake of the lifter, there won't be any difference in P/V/C. Just think about it, and you'll see what I mean. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Re: INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!! Beautiful day out here in NW Indiana, wish the car was runnin <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> . Did you get any times with that cam yet???
Re: INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!! yea just think...........if you would have just waited and gotten a M2, you could have had more power and better drivabilty <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />
Re: INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!! yea just think...........if you would have just waited and gotten a M2, you could have had more power and better drivabilty <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />
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Re: INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by yeah yeah:
<strong> yea just think...........if you would have just waited and gotten a M2, you could have had more power and better drivabilty <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Where is the proof it makes more power and has better drivability <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
<strong> yea just think...........if you would have just waited and gotten a M2, you could have had more power and better drivabilty <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Where is the proof it makes more power and has better drivability <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
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Re: INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!! I hear ya 98 ws6----
I have a stock pile of old parts in my garage where my vette normally sits.
As my vette sits @ my buddies shop waitng for the F'in Ups man to deleiver my parts....
I should have started this a month ago when we had 2 feet of snow.... <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
I have a stock pile of old parts in my garage where my vette normally sits.
As my vette sits @ my buddies shop waitng for the F'in Ups man to deleiver my parts....
I should have started this a month ago when we had 2 feet of snow.... <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Re: INSTALLED G5X-2 ....OMG!!! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by yeah yeah:
<strong> because MMT dynoed a G5X-2 on dyno day, and then dynoed a M2, and the M2 Made more Power, and idles great with no tunning! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I call <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> unless u have a video or if LGM was there. Was this done on the same car(Swap)? I could easily say we did the same comparison and the G5X2 dynoed more, but i didnt, get it? Or I could dyno the G5X2 with more mods, and get more power <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
Details please...or anybody here will call <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />
<small>[ March 16, 2003, 08:13 PM: Message edited by: SNAXS ]</small>
<strong> because MMT dynoed a G5X-2 on dyno day, and then dynoed a M2, and the M2 Made more Power, and idles great with no tunning! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I call <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> unless u have a video or if LGM was there. Was this done on the same car(Swap)? I could easily say we did the same comparison and the G5X2 dynoed more, but i didnt, get it? Or I could dyno the G5X2 with more mods, and get more power <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
Details please...or anybody here will call <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />
<small>[ March 16, 2003, 08:13 PM: Message edited by: SNAXS ]</small>