Budget buget 6 litre build
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Budget buget 6 litre build This combination is absolute budget build for my daily driver, engine is a freshened up 6 litre, new rings and bearings, arp rod bolts, mellings pump, double row chain, topped off with low milage stock ls1 heads cause i already had them, need opinions on the cam? Its a daily driver with 2000 stally 4l60 and 3.46 diff gears, cam iam looking at is a 216/226 114 lsa and 595 lift.... I need a mild cam thats good to drive everyday, whats peoples recomendations on a cam my my budget combo? Thanks
Are valve springs in your budget? If not, .595 is too much lift. You can get LS6/2 Yellow/Blue springs for about $50 that can handle about .570 lift(LS6 or GMPP Hot Cam fall under this line) but otherwise you are looking at 3 or 4 times that much for springs to handle a decent cam and probably pushrods. You should check for pushrod length anyway but I've heard of plenty of folks with the milder stock-ish cams doing OK with stock pushrods. If you want to go super budget and keep your stock LS1 springs, the 2000-ish LS1 stock cam has been shown to be a nice wake-up in truck motors.
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With that much lift on the cam I would avoid those valve springs. I recommend getting a set of Tooley springs if you really want it to last and not drop a valve. I have seen those springs you have fail with a cam about the same size as the one you mentioned.
That cam is pretty mild. Op what exactly are you looking for plenty of cams are reliable daily drivers so by telling us what your hp and driveability goals re we can better help. I can tell you that those springs are fine with that cam but after the 918 failure a few years back I personally like pac 1218's or my persoanl favorite and what I run is psi1511's they are the only beehive without a single failure documented and are what gm uses in their crate motors.
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I would stick with a 222 to a 226 cam on an lxl lobe with that spring. You can use stock hardware and rev just fine. What you suggested is a great combination for the street as well. A great combination with good compression is better than a mismatched combination.
Op whatever you do, even if you dont take anything else except this away from this thread is DONT LISTEN TO THIS GUY. If you're relating lift to stress then you know very little about cam design. Eps cams run over .600 lift all the time but can be used with pac 1218 springs... Why? Because the ramp rates and jerk characteristics of the lobe are much softer and smoother than some more violent ones like LSL or XER.
Beehives are commonly rated to .625 lift and even to .650 duals ahve their place in bigger cams where the ramp rates are hard to control but not here
this... lol like relating lift to stress.
Beehives are commonly rated to .625 lift and even to .650 duals ahve their place in bigger cams where the ramp rates are hard to control but not here
this... lol like relating lift to stress.
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Op whatever you do, even if you dont take anything else except this away from this thread is DONT LISTEN TO THIS GUY. If you're relating lift to stress then you know very little about cam design. Eps cams run over .600 lift all the time but can be used with pac 1218 springs... Why? Because the ramp rates and jerk characteristics of the lobe are much softer and smoother than some more violent ones like LSL or XER.
Beehives are commonly rated to .625 lift and even to .650 duals ahve their place in bigger cams where the ramp rates are hard to control but not here
this... lol like relating lift to stress.
Beehives are commonly rated to .625 lift and even to .650 duals ahve their place in bigger cams where the ramp rates are hard to control but not here
this... lol like relating lift to stress.
3.42 and 26" tire on an f-body is 2166rpm at 70mph.
3.73 and 31" tire on a truck is 1981rpm at 70mph.
4.10 and 31" tire on a truck is 2177rpm at 70mph.
Tire size matters as well as the weight of the vehicle, truck needs a lot more gear for the same cam due to weight and tire size effect on gearing.
The 3.46 gearing mentioned suggests this is not a typical LS vehicle so it is only reasonable to ask for more detail.
3.73 and 31" tire on a truck is 1981rpm at 70mph.
4.10 and 31" tire on a truck is 2177rpm at 70mph.
Tire size matters as well as the weight of the vehicle, truck needs a lot more gear for the same cam due to weight and tire size effect on gearing.
The 3.46 gearing mentioned suggests this is not a typical LS vehicle so it is only reasonable to ask for more detail.
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With that 2000rpm stall converter you better leave that baby cam in there. But for any suggestions to be helpful we need to know the motors compression, the vehicles weight, and the tire size if its out side the 26-28 inch range.
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There 26 inch tyre height, 2000 stally aswell, 241 heads arnt milled and deck height and pistons are stock, so compression will stock, pretty keen on this eps cam in the thread below, 430hp at the treads
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1213394-baby-eps-cam-lays-down-430rwhp-415rwtq-track-results.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1213394-baby-eps-cam-lays-down-430rwhp-415rwtq-track-results.html
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There 26 inch tyre height, 2000 stally aswell, 241 heads arnt milled and deck height and pistons are stock, so compression will stock, pretty keen on this eps cam in the thread below, 430hp at the treads
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...k-results.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...k-results.html