Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Which 5.3L's are best?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 24, 2015 | 05:37 PM
  #1  
JC316's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 383
Likes: 239
Default Which 5.3L's are best?

I just picked up a 98 Z28 and it's about to eject a rod. Going the Gen III 5.3L route, but I am seeing minor differences on the interchange list. Any specific year better than the others? Also, this engine has a cam in it, but the previous owner doesn't have a clue what the specs are, any way of finding out?

Last question, this engine allegedly has a tune on it, but I don't know if it's specifically tuned for this cam. In the event that it is and I don't swap the cam to the new motor, will the new motor run, or will I have to tune it back to the stock specs?
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2015 | 10:24 PM
  #2  
Fry_'s Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 6
From: Marengo, Ia
Default

A L33 would probably be the best.
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2015 | 02:23 AM
  #3  
Tuskyz28's Avatar
TECH Veteran
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,893
Likes: 706
From: Mississippi
Default

Great question bro. I just picked up a block from a fellow racer. It's a 09 model aluminum bblock bought for 250 bucks. Pay attention to the casting number on the front face of the block. Some of these 5.3 blocks are resleevable which means it can be turned into a 454 Ci monster. The casting I been told is best is 12571048. I didn't tell my buddies that when I went to look at the 5.3 I bought from him tho cause if I would had told him those motors can be turned into big cube motors I would had never got my hands on her. Sometimes you got to lie to get what you want LOL
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2015 | 07:24 AM
  #4  
96capricemgr's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 11,975
Likes: 15
Default

Define "best", some folks are fixated on highest performance stock but sounds to me like you want easiest fitment into the car.

For most direct fit you are going to want to stay close in year.

Far as tune, going to have to retune.
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2015 | 01:31 PM
  #5  
JC316's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 383
Likes: 239
Default

Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Define "best", some folks are fixated on highest performance stock but sounds to me like you want easiest fitment into the car.

For most direct fit you are going to want to stay close in year.

Far as tune, going to have to retune.
I know that everything is going to have to swap over anyway. Manifolds, Intake, accessories, motor mounts, and sensors since it's on the weird 98 computer. I care somewhat about performance, but I care more about reliability or year specific quirks.
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2015 | 02:09 PM
  #6  
LSnewbie383's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: Arizona
Default

Will a LS7 intake work on my 5.3? Is it worth the change for improvement?
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2015 | 04:45 PM
  #7  
Fry_'s Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 6
From: Marengo, Ia
Default

Originally Posted by LSnewbie383
Will a LS7 intake work on my 5.3? Is it worth the change for improvement?
That has nothing to do with this thread and is a stupid question. Spend some time learning the basics different LS engine's architecture, and save the newbie questions for the newbie section or risk getting flamed.
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2015 | 06:48 PM
  #8  
96capricemgr's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 11,975
Likes: 15
Default

Originally Posted by JC316
I know that everything is going to have to swap over anyway. Manifolds, Intake, accessories, motor mounts, and sensors since it's on the weird 98 computer. I care somewhat about performance, but I care more about reliability or year specific quirks.

Some 706 casting heads were porous and leaked coolant so maybe look for 862s if looking at 07 and earlier engines.
There might be concerns about crank reluctor.

Power wise the 08+ engines with the 243/799 heads would be the ticket but I suspect there are a bunch of additional hassles.

Please don't take my word for it, just use my suspicion of additional things to look at as cause for research rather than buying just the most powerful.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 25, 2015 | 07:59 PM
  #9  
Fry_'s Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 6
From: Marengo, Ia
Default

'08 is when pretty much all trucks switched to gen 4 motors/ sensors so you would want to avoid those or the swap will much more complicated, and you also need to know what you're buying if it's from a '05-07 as some trucks and SUV switched to gen 4 motors in those years but most were still gen 3's. Like I said already a L33 would probably be best, it's a gen 3 motor so the cam and crank sensors will be compatible, it has an aluminum block so it wont add weight, and has flat top pistons 799 heads for more power. I believe they can be found in all '05-07 4x4 extended cab trucks and there should be a B in the 8th digit of the VIN number.
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2015 | 08:33 PM
  #10  
JC316's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 383
Likes: 239
Default

Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Some 706 casting heads were porous and leaked coolant so maybe look for 862s if looking at 07 and earlier engines.
There might be concerns about crank reluctor.

Power wise the 08+ engines with the 243/799 heads would be the ticket but I suspect there are a bunch of additional hassles.

Please don't take my word for it, just use my suspicion of additional things to look at as cause for research rather than buying just the most powerful.
Originally Posted by Fry_
'08 is when pretty much all trucks switched to gen 4 motors/ sensors so you would want to avoid those or the swap will much more complicated, and you also need to know what you're buying if it's from a '05-07 as some trucks and SUV switched to gen 4 motors in those years but most were still gen 3's. Like I said already a L33 would probably be best, it's a gen 3 motor so the cam and crank sensors will be compatible, it has an aluminum block so it wont add weight, and has flat top pistons 799 heads for more power. I believe they can be found in all '05-07 4x4 extended cab trucks and there should be a B in the 8th digit of the VIN number.

Thanks guys, this is what I was looking for. Will do my best to find an L33 motor.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2022 | 08:59 PM
  #11  
tull's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Feb 2021
Posts: 2
Likes: 1
Default l33

the l33 only came in a low percentage of 05 06 and half of 07 modle years extended cab 4wd trucks
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2022 | 12:17 AM
  #12  
G Atsma's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 22,307
Likes: 3,622
From: Central Cal.
Default

Originally Posted by tull
the l33 only came in a low percentage of 05 06 and half of 07 modle years extended cab 4wd trucks
If one needs an aluminum Gen III 5.3, the only other choice is the LM4 used between 2003-2005. Except for the block, it's identical to the LM7
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2022 | 02:03 PM
  #13  
Old Buzzard's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,070
Likes: 478
From: Bostwick, GA.
Default

My L33 came out of a 2005 Suburban.
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2022 | 03:54 PM
  #14  
G Atsma's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 22,307
Likes: 3,622
From: Central Cal.
Default

Originally Posted by Old Buzzard
My L33 came out of a 2005 Suburban.
Someone swapped it in. No Suburbans normally came with L33's. Maybe an LM4?
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2022 | 07:02 PM
  #15  
Old Buzzard's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,070
Likes: 478
From: Bostwick, GA.
Thumbs up

Originally Posted by G Atsma
Someone swapped it in. No Suburbans normally came with L33's. Maybe an LM4?
Correct!
The yard I got it from listed it as 2005 Sub, with an L33 engine.
I just ran the vin I dl'd from the pcm.
It came out of a 2005 pickup truck.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2022 | 01:17 AM
  #16  
thedetroitkid's Avatar
On The Tree
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 145
Likes: 5
From: Lima oh
Default

Fleabay has these available; at a relatively low cost. The seller I bought one
From had a 30 business day turnaround just to pull a motor and ship it to me. I got
my money back. This was like 2 weeks ago.

04-07 l33’s as others have stated is your best bet. They have the better connecting
rods in the lower end; and are pre-Loma ( or - lifter oil manifold assembly)
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2022 | 11:08 AM
  #17  
G Atsma's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 22,307
Likes: 3,622
From: Central Cal.
Default

Originally Posted by thedetroitkid
...... and are pre-Loma ( or - lifter oil manifold assembly)
AKA Gen III.... the L33 is a Gen III engine.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2022 | 08:18 PM
  #18  
Che70velle's Avatar
ModSquad
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,848
Likes: 5,202
From: Dawsonville Ga.
Default

I put an L33 in an 03ish suburban once upon a time. That thing would move! Sold it to a guy in Alabama. Did the Suburban come from Alabama by any chance?
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2022 | 08:48 PM
  #19  
G Atsma's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 22,307
Likes: 3,622
From: Central Cal.
Default

For having a 193/193 cam, plus 243 heads, they seem to do just fine....
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2022 | 11:04 PM
  #20  
pdxmotorhead's Avatar
TECH Addict
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 2,513
Likes: 480
From: PDX-OR-USA
Default

L33 is a baby sister to the LS2 , has a unique cam stock, Did not have the hollow LS valves but everything else is the same..

I got one from ATK/Jegs $3200 IIRC.. Bought a core out of a Van for the external accessories. for 375 bucks.. Saved the easter egg hunt putting a stock high accessory package together I didnt have time to build so I bought a long block, its in a Wrangler and so far I havnt spent any time full throttle so more power can wait.. (Its a handful)
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:24 PM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-04 18:13:20


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE