You can ask as many questions as you would like and I will answer all of them... as far as cams go, you tell a kid you have a xxx/xxx cam and he will look at you with a blank look... tell him you have a G5X3 and most of their eyes light up and you are now the baddest kid on the block

 

I'm 21, I'm done impressing the kids on the block. The people I answer to are the old school gear heads who think fuel injection is a hinderance. They'd laugh in my face if I told them I bought a cam without a cam card.

 

are you trying to impress old school gearheads? Honestly i dont really think it matters what other ppl think, if your car is faster and you dont know the specs.. does it matter? If lou makes his cams and names them the way he does and sells them the way he does, and you donjt like that, i doulnt buy his cam then, if its that important.. If i were at school still i'd throw mine onto a cam profiler in the shop for my own knowledge, but i dont thnk i'd go shouting it out to everyone... like i said, if he wanted people to know, you'd know.. Just my .02

 

I wish I could videotape my car pulling into dealerships when I go to do mobile work or get parts... I usually leave it idling in the service drive with the A/C on since its a million degrees here... id say within the first 60 seconds I have a crowd of GM techs asking me to pop the hood, telling me about their high school years, and asking me to throw revs... Hell I drove by the ford dealership on the corner of 12th st and camelback and got stuck at the light about 30 yards from the dealership and had 3 salesmen run to the corner asking me to rev it! Do you think even one of the techs or salemen asked me for the specs? They couldnt care less... they want to know how much power, what kinda exhaust, and if I can beat a corvette/viper (dont understand, but EVERYONE asks if I can beat a vette or viper).

Predator had a good point, sometimes you NEED the lift and duration specs when custom building an engine, especially with higher compression and building it to tolerances that are exact within thousanths... And in that situation im sure Lou will offer his assistence... however for the rest of the LS1 community I just think it is info that is irrelevent...

I also think it is funny how many of the people on here take the advise of those who have never owned the cam and spit out things like "it wont fit", "you will blow your engine", "Drivability is crap"... yet I have NEVER seen a LG motorsports hate thread where a X2 or X3 owner is dissatisfied with his/her cam... just some food for thought.

 

Well said!

 

Damn with all of the info from ss why even think of getting something other than a X3, im going crazy waiting until i have enough $$ to do the swap.

 

wow....... umm.. maybe I just looked right past the specs on the X3. But what are they if I may bother to ask?

Josh S.

 

hey SS...

I just have one more quick question for you, how durable is a ls1block with about 45,K on it? Will it hold up against the x3 or even x2 if needed? Or should I think about doin something with the bottom?

Thanks for the info man, best input I have found for making a decision on a cam.

Fry

 

Secret Squirrel...

 

My personal car has 75,000 miles and gets 100+ more a day, Orange Peel has 84,000 I think, I have another local with over 100,000 converting shortly... the vast majority of my customers are in the 35-50K range though! Your bottom end is fine for daily and spirited driving, however just like any engine, if you plan on racing it you will be taking chances... but that comes with ANY cam, including stock! Dont let others scare you by saying the engine will blow at 7000 or the cam will destroy the valvetrain... instead talk to the people raving about the G5X3 in their car that they LOVE driving all the time.

 

SSOnYourSix:
Hey I am glad to see someone trying to give out good information on cams. I am not trying to say anything bad so don't take this the wrong way but I know all the people you are installing cams for don't know much about cars and wouldn't know the difference between 500" lift and 600" lift or what it means. What I am getting at is that there are a lot of people such as myself that have been working on cars for years me since I was around 8-10 years old and are trying to do stuff ourselves and would like to know specs of any cam we were going to install no matter what reason. I think that is why there are some LG haters ETC... Second just cause Lou says it's great doesn't cut it for me as an answer to a question. All I am saying is that if the specs don't mean anything to all these nonmechanics then why worry about it? They would just say I want the X2 or X3 cause Lou and you said it was great! I am not saying that it is not a great cam I was looking at thins post because a friend is wanting a good nitrous cam that doesn't sacrifice NA driving and I was looking this cam as a possibility. I would not pick it without having the specs for it first as he has a set of ported and milled 5.3's and I would be concerned with P to V clearance. And I would not take anyones word on it. And yes I would double check it before installing it. But thanks for some of the good info.

 

Question on the drivability - I have the g5x3 in my car ('00 formula 6m). It's fine on the street, idles great even w/ a/c (thanks to nogo's post) but kind of sucks in parking lot situations. Running under 1500 rpms it bucks. Can this be minimized by tuning?

By the way the car flys. With an approx race weight of 3,650 lbs, less than perfect weather, 2,200-2,500 launch (slipped clutch) on nittos, no skinnies I ran over 121 mph.

 

Inspector12 - I know a lot about these cars, I have done everything myself, minus the cam install, and I don't know the specs on my X3, I really don't care either, I know it's big, 99% of the people around here don't know what the hell the numbers mean anyways, so why tell them. I tell them I have the G5X3 cam by LGM, if you want to know about it's specs, call and ask Lou. Otherwise, just take a look at my tail lights Kidding aside, just because someone has another person install something for them, doesn't make them not know anything, I personally don't like doing VERY important things alone, like degree a cam, etc, and to have someone that's done a ton of these cams already and knows what to do, that's the reason I had Mike install mine, hell, I acutally did a lot of the work, but when it came to the valve springs, putting the locks in, I left that crap to him, I have big hands and would be afraid to drop something

I have 83,xxx miles on the car now, and it's still running strong, as long as you take care of the thing, it will run forever, well, unless you get stupid and f up, but for the most part it will be ok

Bill - You can try to tune that out a little, but it may just be the cam, I don't have that problem personally, but I do have 4.11's. And if I can get near 119-120 N/A I will be estatic!!!!! Nice MPH dude!!!

 

These guys worshipping these cams are obviously salesmen for the "Mystery Cams". If you believe everything great about these cams without seeing any specs, then i have some snake oil for sale that will make an extra 50hp in your engine.

 

Yeah I work for LG, I commute every day in my car to TX and pick this **** up. Come on dude, get real. Have you ever liked something and told others about it? People ask the same question a hundred times in this forum, "What cam to get" All we are doing is telling them our opinions, if you don't like the cam, that's cool, I don't like your cam too, if you have one. I like my car, I like my cam, hell, I like my car a lot, ****, I work for GM too! COOL!

 

I unserstand and agree with you telling people about these two cams I think what dudas35 is saying that he feels you are pushing it kinda hard ETC... I like my car just the way it is also and I liked it when it was stock so I am not denying you anything about your cam. Oh by the way I saw someone posted up about there MPH being 121 that is a high MPH. Mine stock (Lid and Corsa) was doing 114-115mph but I was still only running low 13's 13.2-13.1 when you spin you will have a higher MPH and still a lower ET. Just an observation that is why I like to see the whole time slip so I can make a good call if it is what I am looking for ETC...

 

Prove it! Granted some of LG's dynos maybe a little far fetched, not to say they are falsifying numbers, but not everyone will attain the same results. That being said, I have seen quite a few regular people try either one of those cams out and post up some good results. So its not about a company saying something is great, its about other people trying it out and liking it, like OrangePeel for example, and the other guys that HAVE THE CAM IN THEIR CAR, and like it and are sharing their expieriences. So until a few other guys post up good results about your snake oil, I'll pass thanks (not pickin on you, just making a point)

I do agree with you in a way, I don't want to put a cam in my motor that I don't know the specs, especially with future mods in mind, its not to know what you have to work with. Thats another reason I opted for teh X2, the specs are all over the board now.

 

Or were just happy customers... I will push any product im happy with... Do a search on my posts, I was actually origionally saying BS to the first G5 claims, insisting it was a dyno queen and not a power maker... then I decided to buy a G5X2 after reading all the great reviews... sure enough I was so happy that when the X3 came out I was first in line for mine... Find me another cam and prove to me it can do what the X3 does and I can guarentee will sell plenty of them.

Oh, and BTW... consistent dynos done all on the same dyno cant be wrong... the G5X3 makes power... AND LOTS OF IT!

 

Thats a rough way to judge mainly because most people arent making drag racing cars, or in our case we have a DA on average of about 5000 feet... mix that with 91 octane and temps of close to 110 degrees right now and we dont have a choice when it comes to speed. Dynos are also inconsistent all over the US... a car here will make 385-390 rwhp, take it to texas with a tank of 94 octane and bump the timing and sure enough you will see 410+... AZ isnt a state for dyno queens, nor the fastest times in america, but I will tell you one thing... EVERY X2/X3 cam ive installed and had dyno'd made within 10 rwhp of each other, the varying difference being wheel weight and different headers...

 

People don't have to buy the cam because I say it's a good cam, or Mike says its a good cam, they can make up their own minds. If someone found something that makes good power, why not tell it to eveyone, and he forgot another thing, we didn't start this thread. Someone asked about the cam, we tell them, they ask more, we tell them, etc etc etc etc etc. I didn't post a message saying, BUY THIS CAM, BUY THIS CAM. I started one thread telling people I installed it in my car, it works great, makes great power over my last setup, and I recommend it to anyone looking for a cam. Not telling them to buy it. So it may seem like pushyness, but it's just reduntant questions is all, not redundant posts starting about it.

No offense to you Inspector if you are taking it, I was irritated with duda's post though, just like the whole Zaino clan bullshit, I use Zaino, love it, but I don't sell it, etc There's reasons people all buy certain things, they work