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Old Jun 7, 2015 | 11:26 PM
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2000 ls1 m6, motor is now fresh 10.5 comp.
forged pistons arp bolts
ported 241 heads
kooks 1-7/8 headers, ory, magnaflow c.b to center exhaust
slp maf sensor
underdrive pulley
36# fast injectors with new high flow pump
comp cam xer 273 (224/230 .581 .588 114)
Manley nextec springs
ls7 clutch
s60 3:73 trutrac rear end
air lid with k&n
ls6 intake and valley upgrade
will be dyno tuned
car weight 3720 with me in it

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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 03:45 AM
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Depends on the dyno, but that's a pretty mild setup. I'd say maybe around 410 rwhp possibly
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You'll be in the 370-390 range at the wheels.
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Depends on how good the head porting is. Could be anywhere from 380-425 rwhp depending on that IMO.

Oh and I would get rid of that SLP MAF before you take the car to get tuned. Your tuner will thank you.
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Old Jun 11, 2015 | 12:00 PM
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Stock maf is better I'm assuming?
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Old Jun 11, 2015 | 12:02 PM
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Builder water to install a 236/242 601 on 114 but I thought it was too large for a dd. AM I assuming correctly?
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Old Jun 11, 2015 | 12:09 PM
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The S60 will eat up some power, and without knowing how well the 241's flow, I'd say somewhere in the 360 to 375 rwhp range.
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Im going to say around 400whp. That cam has made 380whp in a otherwise stock LS1 countless times. With the LS6 intake and decent port work you should gain a decent amount but you lose some too with the S60.
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Old Jun 11, 2015 | 10:18 PM
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Anyone have any idea how this setup is on the valve train and how long my valve springs may last? (Rough, almost stock)
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Xer lobes tend to be fairly rough on the valvetrain. I would say check your springs every 10k miles or once a season.
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It's going to be a dd, getting around 30k/year, I hope it stays together.....
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You bought the wrong lobe for that imo. XER is a lobe for a street/strip weekend driven car. I am sure many have daily driven XER cams, but it would not be my first choice. I can not stress enough to check the valve springs.
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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
You bought the wrong lobe for that imo. XER is a lobe for a street/strip weekend driven car. I am sure many have daily driven XER cams, but it would not be my first choice. I can not stress enough to check the valve springs.
Agreed. And I hope you have dual springs on that so you have some insurance if one goes bye bye
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 09:05 AM
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I talked to comp about the spring life, they stressed every 15k, yes I have doubles on it. The builder suggested a 234 242 601 114 cam, I thought that was huge compared but said the lobes were so much better than the xer, so we'll see how it goes, hopefully ok
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Originally Posted by 2000 droptop
I talked to comp about the spring life, they stressed every 15k, yes I have doubles on it. The builder suggested a 234 242 601 114 cam, I thought that was huge compared but said the lobes were so much better than the xer, so we'll see how it goes, hopefully ok
Why don't you just get a custom cam that has lobes designed for longer spring life? 30K a year is a LOT of miles for having to deal with checking valve spring pressure and replacing them every 20K or so....that's gonna get pricey and time consuming with the high miles you put on it. I know Ai or has custom DD cams that are easy on valve train...I'd either go that way IMO or get a cheap 4 banger DD and drive your Camaro on the weekend to keep the miles down.
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Originally Posted by 2000 droptop
Stock maf is better I'm assuming?
Replace that SLP maf with a factory 85mm Delphi maf, used on LS6 and LS2 equipped vehicles and some GM trucks. As mentioned before, your tuner will thank you and 85mm will supply more than enough air for your application, meaning it will not be a restriction in your intake system.

I agree with ahritchie. If you're going to daily drive this car and put approx. 30k a year on it, you're probably better off replacing the current cam now with a cam which has much "softer" lobes. You won't have to worry about valvetrain life so much and you won't have to re-tune for a new cam later. Not to mention less chance of breaking a valve spring and damaging other components (rocker arm and valve). I'm just speaking from experience. I'll never use another XER, LSK, etc. aggressive lobe cam in a street car ever again. I prefer my stuff to last and get my money's worth out of parts.
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Originally Posted by 2000 droptop
I talked to comp about the spring life, they stressed every 15k, yes I have doubles on it. The builder suggested a 234 242 601 114 cam, I thought that was huge compared but said the lobes were so much better than the xer, so we'll see how it goes, hopefully ok
That is way too much cam for 30k miles a year. The overlap alone is going to make it finicky...it will need to be tuned by somebody very experienced with tuning big cams. Personally I would get the BTR stage 1 or something equivalent for what you are looking to do. Then spend a little more money and get a set of ported 243's and you will make as much if not more power everywhere with the BTR stage 1 ported 243 combo vs the 234/242 ported 241 combo.
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This is the sort of build that is a good candidate for a moderate cam and a phenomenal set of heads. If you're wanting more power and daily driving those kinds of miles.

For a performance cam that doesn't go through springs like crazy, I would talk to EPS or cam motion
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
This is the sort of build that is a good candidate for a moderate cam and a phenomenal set of heads. If you're wanting more power and daily driving those kinds of miles.

For a performance cam that doesn't go through springs like crazy, I would talk to EPS or cam motion
Excellent choices. Also Brian Tooley (BTR). None of these guys recommend nor use "aggressive" lobe profiles for a street driven application.
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Ok, got the motor in and on a mustang dyno, put down 413/385. BUT, I now have an issue I hope someone can help with, seems as when I'm driving over 40 ish, whatever speed I'm at and let off the pedal, the rpms stay there like cruise control is on, ANY IDEAS other than that no lights runs strong. This is with stock maf sensor installed
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