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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 04:17 AM
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That would be awesome! What is the rest of your build going to look like? I'll be going pretty much by Tony's letter, other than the cam I have is close enough to the cam he would spec, so I'm leaving it in, and I don't have true duals, and I have a heavy clutch.

But, the heads are the foundation. Once they're done, everything else is relatively easy. Down the road, I'll throw a set of duals on and go with a carbon twin disc, which will make a difference.
Once I get my shortblock going im going to get started with Tony about the cam specs and whether I should port the fast 92 or not.

As for the rest of the drivetrain, I'm looking at a quick performance 9" with a 31 spline trustees, probably 3.73 or 4.1 gears (still a street car so we'll see), a monster stage 2, and debating about getting the t56 rebuilt.

I decided I'm going to stick with the budget route, get a set of headers and a y with a cutout, and later on get the duals.

I'd like to walk away knowing I left nothing on the table, but I think that'll be lengthy and expensive lol
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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000 cam'n SS
TSP 1 7/8 headers TSP off road race Y pipe Borla cat back wide open exhaust All looking for a new ride to make scream I want 800 for everything you see here Value of close to 1800
Appreciate the offer. If I was gonna drop 800, I would just go whole hog and go kooks duals. I see no benefit from my current setup. You should try the classified forum.
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Old Jul 16, 2015 | 09:29 AM
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oh **** you did haha. My bad. I'll take a look around and see what I can find.

Anyway, here's what I've got:

Clevite bearings
Scat 6.125 rods
Wiseco pistons
ARH 205 heads (gonna get them milled to about 11.2 cr)
btr platinum springs
fast 92/92
still need to talk to Tony Mamo about a cam
stock rockers w/ trunion
ported ls6 pump
Monster stg 2 single disc

anything else?
I'd say your list looks good. Be sure to check your pistons if they are going to increase or decrease your cylinder volume. I just switched to a mahle piston and it increased mine by 4cc so I had to mill my new heads more to make up the compression loss.

×2 on the GM white 42#ers. That's what I run also. There is a guy in Missouri that sells a bunch and posts in the classifieds a lot. I think I gave $60 for mine. Also I would spend a little extra and have them cleaned and flowed to be sure they're working. 2 of mine got stuck closed but were able to get opened up.

Like everyone said already invest in a good set of heads. You can run a lot milder cam with better heads. Possibly pick up a set of heads with a matched cam from Mamo or AI. Also some good pushrods i would suggest. I ran some 3/8" Trends, either that or some Mantons. Eliminating pushrod flex and valve train instability can save your motor and possibly squeeze a few more ponies out.

My car made 444/398 on motor with a set of cnc'd 853s with a custom Tick cam. My torque number should have been higher but I think my intake runner were killing my air velocity and hurting it. And lastly listen to some of these guys in here because they know 2hat they're talking about. I made a post similar to this a few years ago and these same guys chimed in and once I finally got it done I was very happy with my car.
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Old Jul 16, 2015 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Appreciate the offer. If I was gonna drop 800, I would just go whole hog and go kooks duals. I see no benefit from my current setup. You should try the classified forum.
My bad I was talking to alpha blue and I have them listed on the parts classified as well but reading his goals and knowing what my setup made I'd figure I'd offer him some great parts at a reasonable price.

Really not sure what kind of gains there are from running kooks vs tsp but you can't beat tsp for the price of there stuff.
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Old Jul 16, 2015 | 12:13 PM
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I'd say your list looks good. Be sure to check your pistons if they are going to increase or decrease your cylinder volume. I just switched to a mahle piston and it increased mine by 4cc so I had to mill my new heads more to make up the compression loss.
I was planning on Wiseco's -3.2 cc pistons. Though I wanna make sure I'm reading this right. If they're - cc pistons, that is decreasing cylinder volume, correct?

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Like everyone said already invest in a good set of heads. You can run a lot milder cam with better heads. Possibly pick up a set of heads with a matched cam from Mamo or AI. Also some good pushrods i would suggest. I ran some 3/8" Trends, either that or some Mantons. Eliminating pushrod flex and valve train instability can save your motor and possibly squeeze a few more ponies out.
I already talked to Tony, once I really get the build off the ground we'll start talking cam specs. But he did recommend me his new MMS220's. As for my pushrods I was debating between a comp cams set or some manley.

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My car made 444/398 on motor with a set of cnc'd 853s with a custom Tick cam. My torque number should have been higher but I think my intake runner were killing my air velocity and hurting it.
What intake were you running?
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Old Jul 16, 2015 | 12:23 PM
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When you dish the Pistons the swept volume / displacement is the same. What effectively changes is the residual volume at TDC. You have the combustion chamber volume + head gasket volume + piston dish volume making up your residual volume. So, the dish reduces the compression ratio. But not by subtracting from cylinder volume, by adding to combustion chamber volume. Make sense?
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Old Jul 16, 2015 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
When you dish the Pistons the swept volume / displacement is the same. What effectively changes is the residual volume at TDC. You have the combustion chamber volume + head gasket volume + piston dish volume making up your residual volume. So, the dish reduces the compression ratio. But not by subtracting from cylinder volume, by adding to combustion chamber volume. Make sense?
Yeah. I mis-worded it on accident. But the -3.2 still means that, since the pistons are flat tops, they're subtracting 3.2ccs from the volume?
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What v8tr said! I was running an LS6 intake.
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 04:06 AM
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So I spoke with Tony and we agreed on a set of his latest 220cc heads, (on the fence about the 10mm upgrade for the yt rockers) and a fast102/102. I'll assume the white gm injectors will fit the 102, and I was looking at an ebay kit for the fuel rails so hopefully with those I can get away without needing the 1/2" spacer.

Now I just need to figure if I want to try my hand at assembling the shortblock myself or pay 300 for the machine shop to do it.
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300 isn't bad for piece of mind. The shop I took mine too only charged $150 so I would have been a fool not to
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Originally Posted by alfablue
So I spoke with Tony and we agreed on a set of his latest 220cc heads, (on the fence about the 10mm upgrade for the yt rockers) and a fast102/102. I'll assume the white gm injectors will fit the 102, and I was looking at an ebay kit for the fuel rails so hopefully with those I can get away without needing the 1/2" spacer.
From what I've seen you won't be disappointed with those heads, wish I had the coin for a set. The white ones should work, may have to get some different o rings?... and what about running a LS3 fuel rail?

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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 08:21 AM
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The fast 102 comes with oversized o-rings. According to JakeFusion the LS3 rails work. I take his word for it.
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