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Old Aug 19, 2015 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by gagliano7
Did you ever do the raf table from a startup using Russ K config?
I'll have to start searching into that. I don't even know what that means.
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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 10:32 AM
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It will put the proper #'s into your Base Running Airflow under idle. You start logging then start the car cold don't touch the gas and let it idle until car is well up to temp. You need to it for park and in drive. You will see all the fields being filled as the temp rises. here is a pic of table on hptuners.
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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 10:40 AM
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OK. Sounds pretty good, but from what I've been reading, the VE's have to be right first, and I don't think mine are. Wouldn't it just screw it up if the VE's are still off?
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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 12:20 PM
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You will have to mess with both. I just like to get the raf close than work off of that and fine tune the raf after the VE is good.
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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 04:31 PM
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Cool! I'll give it a try Saturday morning - all the time in the world for a good cold start and warm up..
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Old Aug 21, 2015 | 08:35 AM
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Got it roughed in pretty well now. STFT's are staying +5/-5. Taking her to the rollers today to finish the tune.
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Old Aug 21, 2015 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Got it roughed in pretty well now. STFT's are staying +5/-5. Taking her to the rollers today to finish the tune.
Congratulations on the progress!! In for numbers and hopefully a graph later today.
What kind of wheels, gears, and rear end are you running?
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Old Aug 21, 2015 | 10:07 AM
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Got it roughed in pretty well now. STFT's are staying +5/-5. Taking her to the rollers today to finish the tune.
Very nice. I know you'll keep us updated.
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Congratulations on the progress!! In for numbers and hopefully a graph later today.
What kind of wheels, gears, and rear end are you running?
Still got the stock rear end - not sure for how much longer, though. It's tough to keep the foot out of the pedal.

Wheels are 305/30/19 rear and 275/35/18 front.
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 09:53 AM
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WTB results?
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Sorry to have to give this update, but on the way to the dyno, my daughter called. Her car died, smoke pouring out the hood. Radiator split in half.

Then I got home, and the pool pump was shooting water out a cracked housing. Damn this AZ heat!

Then I go back to my car and the burnt egg catalytic converter smell is horrendous. I think I burnt up the cats.

So, I'm gonna dump the cats. Won't have any results until then.

Sorry guys.
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Sorry to have to give this update, but on the way to the dyno, my daughter called. Her car died, smoke pouring out the hood. Radiator split in half.

Then I got home, and the pool pump was shooting water out a cracked housing. Damn this AZ heat!

Then I go back to my car and the burnt egg catalytic converter smell is horrendous. I think I burnt up the cats.

So, I'm gonna dump the cats. Won't have any results until then.

Sorry guys.
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If it weren't for bad luck, you wouldn't have any luck at all.
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 12:51 PM
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Sorry to hear about your problems Darth. I can only imagine your frustration. Good luck with the problems.
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Ok so I dropped the Y and cats are toasted. I grabbed some 18" pipe at AZ just to throw on the collectors and try to get a decent number. Caught him as he was about to close and begged him. Got one pull only.

So, the disclaimers - basically open headers, 197 coolant temp due to no cool down time, low 12's AFR, 108 ambient, 26 barometer, 12% humidity, 1.07 SAE correction. Wheel balance affected the pull above 100 something MPH. Smoothing at 3 and it still affected the graph.

474@6320, 417@4890. To be honest, I think it caught a peak at 6300 and the real number is 470@6500. It never really fell off, I just didn't trust going over 6800. So, without further ado or guilding the lily......



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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 10:30 PM
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Oh and the old motor pulled 370. Heads, intake, and move to short travel lifters were the main power adders. Same cam. So figure the MMS220 heads + fast + short travels are worth 100 over the hand ported stock heads, BBK intake, and stock lifters.

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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 07:40 AM
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Congratulations! I didn't think you were going to make it yesterday with all of your other distractions. Impressive numbers.
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Congratulations! I didn't think you were going to make it yesterday with all of your other distractions. Impressive numbers.
Thanks. I'm pretty happy with it. It's a blast to drive. I would say that when I pull from 80 to 130 in 4th, it feels like 3rd used to. I just need to get the exhaust right, but I'm tapped out. To quiet her down, I'm going to use the crowbar method to clean out the cats so I can drive it without getting harassed - neighbors, police.

Probably the hardest part is from a dead stop. If I don't give the car in front a head start.....

With your corvette exhaust, you'll probably do better.

I would say on this set up, 500 on stock cubes can be done, but it needs to be perfect. Light clutch, dual exhaust will be necessary. Also, this is a medium sized cam. You could throw a 240/246 cam at it to pick up the power, but I think I would lose midrange, and I like the midrange how it is.

The most fun is when you have a passenger who thinks they like fast cars, and you pin them back. They look like that Jeff Gordon Camaro test drive video that's been making the youtube rounds.
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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 09:42 AM
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Congratulations Darth!
Very Good Results!
Way to Persevere!
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Great results man!
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Solid results. Congratulations!
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