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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Taxman20
Yea this is exactly why trying to say anything in text. sometimes doesn't work. Things are taken out of context.

I NEVER said I was using a certain torque to avoid distortion. I DID say that I was going to try and torque the ARP bolt the same total amount of torque as the stock bolt. I agreed that torqueing a stronger bolt could result un a higher ending torque if using the angle method due to lack of bolt stretch. Hense a little lower torque than the stock bolt end result.

As for trolling, nope. The way I am setting my rods and bolts are not unlike Matt sets his. Using torque. I am going to do some tests and see what kind of poundage different ways end up though. So whats the issue?

You guys are killing me with reading what you like into my words.

Ill try to make this simple.
Use stock bolt. Torque using angle method.
Check final lbs of torque on that stock bolt
Install ARP bolts to that poundage.
Is it really that hard?

I understand the conversation of "holding" and Grip on the rod by the bolt. I am not worried about that when using the ARP.

I cant make it any more simple.
You do know that the amount of final ft-lbs is going to be different from one stock rod bolt to the next using the angle method. So how will you be making the choice of what amount of torque to use?

Use stock bolt. Torque using angle method.
Check final lbs of torque on that stock bolt Install ARP bolts to that poundage.
Is it really that hard?
If it was that simple why would gm not supply the final ft-lbs spec and be done with it?
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 08:44 AM
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By taking the average.

I understand completely how and why GM does it the way they do. But it doesn't work with ARP type bolts. Final torque would be too high.

Guys, what I am doing is a test, that's it. We will see how it works out. It will go or it will blow. Either way its not a huge loss.
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 10:14 AM
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Well i want to use ls6 bolts and my entire question was if there is anything wrong with using that bolt if the motor will never see 6200rpms
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakinoutcreekst
Well i want to use ls6 bolts and my entire question was if there is anything wrong with using that bolt if the motor will never see 6200rpms
I wouldn't hesitate to run a stock bolt to 6200.
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakinoutcreekst
Well i want to use ls6 bolts and my entire question was if there is anything wrong with using that bolt if the motor will never see 6200rpms
You will be fine.
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 07:30 PM
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Agreed. That's not a lot of rpm for a stock bolt. High 6-7k and I would start to worry.
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