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Old Sep 19, 2016 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nickb123
So what would explain the noise my rockers started making? And what do I do about it?
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Until we can visually inspect them sir anything is just a guess.
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Old Sep 20, 2016 | 01:17 AM
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put 200 miles on them today. They are quieter. I took both engine covers off so I can still hear the valve train.
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Old Sep 21, 2016 | 05:23 PM
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Just ordered a set to go with my 247/255 .650/.650 cam! Can't wait to try then after my bad experiences with comp.
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Old Sep 21, 2016 | 08:29 PM
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now i found this in my drivers side head by the #1 intake spring. any ideas could not find any damage
I can't tell how big it is as I don't know what kind of paper towels we are sitting on. My WAG would be possible a piece of an old/stock-type seal? It could also be a part of the inner trunnion race from the stock trunnion. This assumes this was hiding in there since before you upgraded springs/rockers. Doesn't strike me as a part of the Comp turnnion kit.
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Old Sep 21, 2016 | 08:42 PM
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i forgot to update. i checked everything and nothing was broke. Then i remembered i didnt wipe any oil of of this so it had to of fallen in there when I took the cover off.
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Old Sep 21, 2016 | 08:46 PM
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Is that a piece of copper/brass?
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Old Sep 21, 2016 | 08:52 PM
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it was a piece of stamped steel 1.5" long
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Old Sep 22, 2016 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JCunningham
it was a piece of stamped steel 1.5" long


You're a braver man than I am. If I had found a 1.5" piece of anything hanging around in my engine I wouldn't have driven it anywhere. I'd have freaked out and the motor would have probably been broken down to parade rest looking for where it came from!


Glad to hear no damage though!
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well it was on top of the head and nothing on top of that head was broken. If it could have been anything it could have been a valve seal and mine are all good and it doesnt match the valve seals I have on it. the only other thing in the motor that has metal like that is the windage tray or oil pan oil bypass. I deleted the bypass and the old one was fine. for a chunk to have been broken off the windage tray it would have had to been hit by a rod and that didnt happen. So since there was no oil on the part that was sitting on top of the head were it would have been showered in oil if it had been in there when the engine was running id say its safe to say it fell in when i took the valve cover off.
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Old Sep 22, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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Lol..
What school did you go to and did they teach you how to use a ruler...lol. I'm just busting your *****.
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Old Sep 25, 2016 | 09:55 PM
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could that be from the inner top structure of a valve seal?
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 11:01 AM
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Ordered mine today. Thanks for the great price.
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 12:22 PM
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Just did my retrofit yesterday. Took a total of like 3 hrs. This includes disassembling the originals, cleaning the bodies and then putting the bushings In and assembling. I stall went smoothly after figuring out the first one. Couple of things to note.

I instructions say to use a 5/8" fee socket to press the first bushing in... The hole was too small for 5/8" so I had to use a 9/16" socket. after that first bushing pressed all the way down to bottom out against flat surface u can use the 5/8" for the rest of the install.

Pushing the last bushing in with the 5/8" socket you have to be careful pushing it in as you can push it in too far and lock up the trunion and thus need to push it back out the other side. So you need great control over the pressure and how far you press in. This was the difficult part as you have to press till flat with the body of the rocker. But the socket will center instelf on the rocker body bushing/bearing hole before bottoming out in the bevel. So you have to stop right before the edge of the rocker otherwise you have no clearance. Once I got it down I was doing a rocker every 5 min or so.

I used the supplied driven assembly line for the trunions going into the bushing for dry start. But I used permatex engine assembly lube for the rocker body to bushing install.

One thing in I did notice was about 3 rockers the bushings pushed in much easie than the others.

Another thing to note is that using a harbor freight 1 ton press worked beautifully and made the install very quick and precise. I couldn't imagine doing it in a drill press, vice or arbor press. The 1 ton press cost less than $50 with a 20% off and it was more than adequate and has the cutouts and a flat surface to press on. Rockers turned out great and can't wait to get them on the new heads when I install them with a cam. Should be quiet and make a lot more power.



Here's my assembly line. Worked out great.

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Old Oct 7, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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It is also very easy with a vise but the press would be nicer.
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Old Oct 7, 2016 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JCunningham
well it was on top of the head and nothing on top of that head was broken. If it could have been anything it could have been a valve seal and mine are all good and it doesnt match the valve seals I have on it. the only other thing in the motor that has metal like that is the windage tray or oil pan oil bypass. I deleted the bypass and the old one was fine. for a chunk to have been broken off the windage tray it would have had to been hit by a rod and that didnt happen. So since there was no oil on the part that was sitting on top of the head were it would have been showered in oil if it had been in there when the engine was running id say its safe to say it fell in when i took the valve cover off.


For the record that's a piece of valve guide seal. My BTR seals came apart, and left those done pieces.
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Old Oct 28, 2016 | 08:35 PM
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whatever it was it wasnt part of the seals on it or the oem ones I removed. I didnt think about it until later that it was not covered in oil. It had to have fallen in there when I took the valve cover off.
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 10:41 AM
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ANY reason why these would have anything to do with valve float?
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FRiCK
ANY reason why these would have anything to do with valve float?
Unless your rockers are sticking I would think you need better valve springs
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by FRiCK
ANY reason why these would have anything to do with valve float?
Technically if anything these would help more with valve float. The bushings are probably lighter than the bearings they replace. Being they are so close to the pivot point the mass doesn't affect it as much but a reduction is still a reduction.
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Old Dec 11, 2016 | 05:10 PM
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Good afternoon. I've the btr trunion kit installed 18mts 18k miles ago. After reading all 35 pages this morning I pulled one rocker and
pressed apart. I found that the intake rocker on cyl number 3 had a small amount of galling of the bearings. I only pulled off the one but by what has been posted in this thread I'll be getting a btr smith brothers bushing kit soon as I post this to the site. it's not as bad as others ive seen but I only pulled one. I daily drive this thing as much as possible and I can't deal with this issue. bushing it is. is anyone using these bushing upgrade with really agressive cam shafts?
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