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Old 10-30-2021, 09:23 PM
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Default Lq4 cam swap passenger side dowel tool goes in 1/2 way

I’m doing a Cam swap in my car.

im using 5/16 dowel rods to insert in the block after I spun the old cam around a few times.

the drivers side goes in perfect but the passenger side only goes in 1/2 way and seems like it hits a wall ?

did one lifter already drop ? Or do I need to grind a point into the cam dowel tool?
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Originally Posted by 68roadrunner
Did one lifter already drop ? Possibly
Or do I need to grind a point into the cam dowel tool? Might help
Here ya go....
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Please see post #8 - Spin cam by hand and try again.
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and... press inward on the dowel rod whilst you spin the cam... maybe that will lift the lifter and allow the rod to slip past.
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Grind a point into the end of the 5/16 dowel.
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I tried grinding a point on to the dowel. I also tried putting the pointed dowel in while spinning cam. No dice.

what would cause this issue ? Cracked lifter tray ? Collapsed lifter ?
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Originally Posted by 68roadrunner
I tried grinding a point on to the dowel. I also tried putting the pointed dowel in while spinning cam. No dice.

what would cause this issue ? Cracked lifter tray ? Collapsed lifter ?
i found the culprit


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Definitely a bad thing; glad you found it; but not germane to whether the dowel goes in or not. Doesn't explain that observed fact.

The lifter body should still move however much, according to the lift of the cam; and once it had moved upward far enough, the dowel should have slid in.

Looks like somebody SEVERELY over-revved it at some point in its life. By the witness marks on the retainer, not terribly long ago.

What does the roller and the lobe look like?
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Originally Posted by RB04Av
Definitely a bad thing; glad you found it; but not germane to whether the dowel goes in or not. Doesn't explain that observed fact.

The lifter body should still move however much, according to the lift of the cam; and once it had moved upward far enough, the dowel should have slid in.

Looks like somebody SEVERELY over-revved it at some point in its life. By the witness marks on the retainer, not terribly long ago.

What does the roller and the lobe look like?

roller looked fine. Cam looked fine

They were reused lifters from a 4.8. I was revving it to 7,000rpm




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