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Old 08-15-2018, 12:33 PM
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lastnight I too my car to the track it’s a ls1 btr stage 4 cam ported tsp 243’s fast 92/92 tsp true duals and 1/78 long tubes yank 4000 stall 42lb injectors 225fuel pump etc. before the cam when it was just lid headers exhaust car went 12.8 at 107 and made 324 to the tire after the cam heads and intake car made 417 to the tire and went 12.8 at 106 with a 1.8 60 foot anyone have any ideas..??
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Since you didn't mention it I have to ask, is the car tuned for the new mods?
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any idea on what RPM it was shifting? also I imagine you had it tuned correctly for the stall?
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Since you didn't mention it I have to ask, is the car tuned for the new mods?
it was parshley tuned didn’t have enough time on the dyno and after the kids it made 417 to the tire but the car still dies out at idle sometimes and it blows smoke
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any idea on what RPM it was shifting? also I imagine you had it tuned correctly for the stall?
shifting at 6500 rpm and it was tuned just for a safe tune to drive it back home 70 Miles
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any idea on what RPM it was shifting? also I imagine you had it tuned correctly for the stall?
shifting at 6500 rpm and it was tuned just for a safe tune to drive it back home 70 Miles but my tuner said he needs more time with it to get it right since we only had like an hour of tuning time
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I say get it tuned right then go back and run again. If it's still lacking then you'll know it's something else. Process of elimination
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Originally Posted by ManMuchwano93z28

it was parshley tuned didn’t have enough time on the dyno and after the kids it made 417 to the tire but the car still dies out at idle sometimes and it blows smoke



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shifting at 6500 rpm and it was tuned just for a safe tune to drive it back home 70 Miles



Originally Posted by ManMuchwano93z28

shifting at 6500 rpm and it was tuned just for a safe tune to drive it back home 70 Miles but my tuner said he needs more time with it to get it right since we only had like an hour of tuning time



You may have answered your question. Sounds like the car needs to be fully tuned. If the smoke is black then the tune is likely too rich. If it's not black you have other issues. Your shift points aren't high enough to squeeze the full potential out of your heads and large cam but that's not your biggest issue right now. I would not be racing the car or beating on it in its current state. I'm confident that once it's properly tuned (assuming that's the issue), your smoking has subsided, and your shift points raised (up to you), the car absolutely will haul ***.
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With that setup you should be shifting around 6800-7000 rpm. Even still your trap speed should be higher. After you get a proper tune, if it still runs similar speeds I’d be pulling the trans for a health check.
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With that setup you should be shifting around 6800-7000 rpm. Even still your trap speed should be higher. After you get a proper tune, if it still runs similar speeds I’d be pulling the trans for a health check.
trans was just rebuilt and the smoke is white car stopped making power at 6200 rpm
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White smoke is not good and typically means a coolant leak i.e. head gasket failure, etc. Does it smell kinda sweet? I would check your coolant level in the reservoir to confirm a loss of coolant. Did you do the head install? if so, were the block and head surfaces completely cleaned prior to installing the new heads and were new gaskets used and heads properly torqued down in the proper sequence? I would not drive the car until the culprit is determined and fixed because coolant can mess **** up. I would suggest dropping the oil to see if its milky due to coolant contamination.

Edit: look closely and see if the white smoke has a blue tint to it. I recently had that and turns out a few of my valve stem seals lifted off the guides. If no blue tint then it's coloant related more than likely.
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Shifts points have nothing to do with how lousy the car ran. Shifting at 6500 that car is still down 10mph and almost a second.
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white smoke general means coolant leak being burnt in the combustion chamber
blue smoke generally means oil is being burnt
black smoke generally means extra fuel is dumped

get back to this post on what color smoke if it is white or not.
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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
White smoke is not good and typically means a coolant leak i.e. head gasket failure, etc. Does it smell kinda sweet? I would check your coolant level in the reservoir to confirm a loss of coolant. Did you do the head install? if so, were the block and head surfaces completely cleaned prior to installing the new heads and were new gaskets used and heads properly torqued down in the proper sequence? I would not drive the car until the culprit is determined and fixed because coolant can mess **** up. I would suggest dropping the oil to see if its milky due to coolant contamination.

Edit: look closely and see if the white smoke has a blue tint to it. I recently had that and turns out a few of my valve stem seals lifted off the guides. If no blue tint then it's coloant related more than likely.
It was burning oil I thought it was white smoke but I was wrong she was blue smoke but only at idle after I tipped her off with oil the smoking stopped a little bit oil was fine checked the dip stick wasn’t milky at all she’s just burning it.. but like I said after I put in a quart of oil she stopped smoking
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Shifts points have nothing to do with how lousy the car ran. Shifting at 6500 that car is still down 10mph and almost a second.
that’s what I thought I figured I would trap around 113-116 not 106 constantly and one pass at 107
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I just went through the blue smoke at idle deal myself. I’d pull all plugs and see if any are fouled and replace if so. If any plugs have oil on the threads pull the valve covers and look at the seals on those cylinders. If you have single springs should be easy to see the seals. If you have duals like me you may have to remove the springs to assess the situation. Could be seals that lifted up and/or smashed valve stem seals.

After that’s resolved I’d have the tune touched up and then see what the car does at the track.
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It's partially tuned and smoking and you're asking us why it's slow..

Pretty obvious what the problem is, at least one of the problems.

Tune it, tune it right, get it all sorted and quit raggin on it till it's done right or you'll create more problems or pop that motor.

Cmon man, this isn't complicated.
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