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07-14-2004, 11:31 PM
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just saying its a 228/230 cam or whatever it is wont alow someone to copy it. as im sure most know, theres way more to a cam than 2 numbers, lg should atleast put up them 2 numbers. and if someone wants to copy it all they have to do is buy one and slap it on a cam doctor.
07-14-2004, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Stone0fFire
and yet you dont understand why LG wont give his stats away?
like you, supposedly,
LG worked hard to research and develop the numbers for this cam
after working "too damn hard" for this cam,
why should they give the stats, and his money, away?
like you, supposedly,
LG worked hard to research and develop the numbers for this cam
after working "too damn hard" for this cam,
why should they give the stats, and his money, away?
Because alot of people like to know what they are buying.
I would of brought a X3 instead of a trex if I knew the specs so i guess they are giving money away, they just lost a cam, spring, retainer,push rods,comp r lifters,head gaskets,comp rocker armsand arp stud kit sale to their competator about 2,800.00. Why should they give their specs away da!!
07-15-2004, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Stone0fFire
and yet you dont understand why LG wont give his stats away?
like you, supposedly,
LG worked hard to research and develop the numbers for this cam
after working "too damn hard" for this cam,
why should they give the stats, and his money, away?
like you, supposedly,
LG worked hard to research and develop the numbers for this cam
after working "too damn hard" for this cam,
why should they give the stats, and his money, away?
07-15-2004, 02:55 AM
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I said it before,
Knowing your cam specs is essential, because a cam is part of an entire plathera of parts to make a good efficient set up.
also to know the limitations of your engine and not destroy it in the process because one of your parts cannot handle the other.
On a previous thread, I had mentionned that if another LG competitor really wanted to copy all they have to do is buy one and copy. it's that simple. The other major and renown companies have to much pride, integrity and identity to do such a thing.
I spend over a month choosing my H/C and based my decision on data gathered such as cam specs, head specs etc.............
IMO this is
on LG part.
Knowing your cam specs is essential, because a cam is part of an entire plathera of parts to make a good efficient set up.
also to know the limitations of your engine and not destroy it in the process because one of your parts cannot handle the other.
On a previous thread, I had mentionned that if another LG competitor really wanted to copy all they have to do is buy one and copy. it's that simple. The other major and renown companies have to much pride, integrity and identity to do such a thing.
I spend over a month choosing my H/C and based my decision on data gathered such as cam specs, head specs etc.............
IMO this is
on LG part. 
07-15-2004, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by CamM
How many times have you seen Cartek post their exact cam specs on their fastest cars? However, the only shop that gets bashed for it is LG...hmmm.
07-15-2004, 11:44 AM
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this entire thread is some funny stuff. if you don't want the cam without the specs, don't buy it. simple as that. no need to go bitching about it all over the forums.
evidently you've never been down to LG. i think they're doing pretty well for themselves. 
Originally Posted by hydfixer
It still goes back to Thunder racing and a bunch of other vendors list their grind specs, they had to pay for R&D and the cam to be ground and I don"t see any differance, seems to me if they gave their specs they would widen their customer base and sell more cams. It looks like LG lost sales to several people on this post. Like I said eariler I spent 2800.00 with their competitor and I am also going to buy my 1800. Exedy clutch from their competitor, Its their busines I guess they can losse money if they want. But I always thought people were in busines to make money, guess i'm wrong on that to.
07-15-2004, 11:56 AM
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It still goes back to Thunder racing and a bunch of other vendors list their grind specs, they had to pay for R&D and the cam to be ground and I don"t see any differance, seems to me if they gave their specs they would widen their customer base and sell more cams. It looks like LG lost sales to several people on this post. Like I said eariler I spent 2800.00 with their competitor and I am also going to buy my 1800. Exedy clutch from their competitor, Its their busines I guess they can losse money if they want. But I always thought people were in busines to make money, guess i'm wrong on that to.
Its been said 100000000 times, if it bothers you that much, then dont buy it and quit bitching about it. Its that simple.
07-15-2004, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by KGSloan
this entire thread is some funny stuff. if you don't want the cam without the specs, don't buy it. simple as that. no need to go bitching about it all over the forums.
evidently you've never been down to LG. i think they're doing pretty well for themselves.
evidently you've never been down to LG. i think they're doing pretty well for themselves.
And since LG is doing so good than why is every one crying about them not making any money if they give out the specs.
07-15-2004, 12:00 PM
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Releasing the max lift and/or the duration of the camshaft would not give it away. Valve events are also very important when making a camshaft and calculating P/V clearances. So why hide the lift and duration?
I think this thread answers the question. At least once a week there is a new "G5X2/G5X3" thread. Reguardless of whether people agree or disagree with Lou's decision not to release specs, he sure gets a **** load of publicity every time someone argues about it.
I'm sure if someone was serious about buying the camshaft Lou would give you the exact specs before you bought it, that way you knew you weren't risking any serious damage to your motor. So what if he releases the lift and duration, it might be close, but you'd still have to call to make sure it would work with your particular set up. When it comes to building a custom valve train or forged bottom end, close isn't good enough.
If you're curious JUST CALL THE MAN and put it all to rest.
I think this thread answers the question. At least once a week there is a new "G5X2/G5X3" thread. Reguardless of whether people agree or disagree with Lou's decision not to release specs, he sure gets a **** load of publicity every time someone argues about it.
I'm sure if someone was serious about buying the camshaft Lou would give you the exact specs before you bought it, that way you knew you weren't risking any serious damage to your motor. So what if he releases the lift and duration, it might be close, but you'd still have to call to make sure it would work with your particular set up. When it comes to building a custom valve train or forged bottom end, close isn't good enough.
If you're curious JUST CALL THE MAN and put it all to rest.
07-15-2004, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bad2000ss
Releasing the max lift and/or the duration of the camshaft would not give it away. Valve events are also very important when making a camshaft and calculating P/V clearances. So why hide the lift and duration?
I think this thread answers the question. At least once a week there is a new "G5X2/G5X3" thread. Reguardless of whether people agree or disagree with Lou's decision not to release specs, he sure gets a **** load of publicity every time someone argues about it.
I'm sure if someone was serious about buying the camshaft Lou would give you the exact specs before you bought it, that way you knew you weren't risking any serious damage to your motor. So what if he releases the lift and duration, it might be close, but you'd still have to call to make sure it would work with your particular set up. When it comes to building a custom valve train or forged bottom end, close isn't good enough.
If you're curious JUST CALL THE MAN and put it all to rest.
I think this thread answers the question. At least once a week there is a new "G5X2/G5X3" thread. Reguardless of whether people agree or disagree with Lou's decision not to release specs, he sure gets a **** load of publicity every time someone argues about it.
I'm sure if someone was serious about buying the camshaft Lou would give you the exact specs before you bought it, that way you knew you weren't risking any serious damage to your motor. So what if he releases the lift and duration, it might be close, but you'd still have to call to make sure it would work with your particular set up. When it comes to building a custom valve train or forged bottom end, close isn't good enough.
If you're curious JUST CALL THE MAN and put it all to rest.
07-15-2004, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by hydfixer
You can buy a S.B. chev cam for around a 100 to 200 bucks, about the same size for raw material, same time to grind AND some one did the R&D.
07-15-2004, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 66ImpalaLT1
You dont know what you're talking about. Billet steel, rifle drilled blanks are not cheap and you cant buy a cam like that for any engine for $100-200. I'd be suprised if you can find a roller cam for any engine for $100.
This is fun I am not dissen LG they have a damn good product and I have spent a lot of money with them with no regrets. I just want specs so I don't end up with 8 bent exhust valves again.
07-15-2004, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by J-Rod
There are no Ls1 cores for $100 or $200... Call Comp and ask how much a custom ls1 cam costs...
07-15-2004, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hydfixer
You didn't think comp would sell a cam to a end user cheaper then a vender buying a cam from them did you
07-15-2004, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hydfixer
The market price is 76 cents per inch for 4140 heat treated bar stock and to have them gun drilled on a cnc 100pcs at a time 17.50 each so we are talking about 45.00 for a cam blank cost. The 78 cents per inch is based on buying 4ea 20' sticks of 4140 anelled at 213lbs a stick @ 88 cents per pound. (alloy steel is sold by the pound) and I am sure that comp cams gets a better price on steel than my company does.
07-15-2004, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LASTLS1
Some people just don't get it. I would love to see if it was them who spent the time making the cam. Only for other people to copy it and make the profit off of his work! It's really not hard to figure out.
The specs (I know both specs) are very close to what many vendors have used for 4 years.
There is nothing magical about them except they are good cams that work.
07-15-2004, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris ARE 385
No offense to LG but the lobes are off the shelf grinds.
The specs (I know both specs) are very close to what many vendors have used for 4 years.
There is nothing magical about them except they are good cams that work.
The specs (I know both specs) are very close to what many vendors have used for 4 years.
There is nothing magical about them except they are good cams that work.
07-15-2004, 03:09 PM
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Ever looked at a lobe catalog? You still have to figure out which ones will work for you and what IVO and EVO you want.
Just because the lobes are out of the book doesnt mean Comp was already grinding the cam and stocking them on shelves.
I agree with Chris, there's nothing magical its just a good cam.
Just because the lobes are out of the book doesnt mean Comp was already grinding the cam and stocking them on shelves.
I agree with Chris, there's nothing magical its just a good cam.