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Old 05-16-2020, 04:01 PM
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Question Hydraulic Lifter Help!!!

Engine currently being assembled:

364 cubic inche Factory cast iron block
799 Factory cast aluminum heads .005 milled for true
Aftermarket Flat-top pistons, gen 4 floating rods and crank.
Lunati Dual Valve Springs with 150 for seat and 400 open. .660 max lift
Copper bushing 'Roller rocker and trunnion' upgrade.
Elgin P-1841 Cam 112 LSA 238/242 .595/.595

Now here is the problem, I have had my sights on Johnson 2110's as they seem like the perfect fit for my application. However, I am having a hard time finding them ANYWHERE to purchase and the engine is waiting for lifters, So can anyone help me find some? Or more importantly educate me on this particular application and on what lifters are acceptable? I am OK with spending less money on something other than johnsons, I just don't see any rated for above 6500rpm with this lift and seat pressure. I will be/have a set of hardened push-rods already. I have heard awful things about morel and I really dont think the 'stock LS7' lifters are okay for this cam along with the reliability factor.
This engine will see a 7100/7000rpm limit. Is also going into a 6 speed vehicle so some limiter bouncing is to be expected.

Please note that the johnsons at 500 roughly for the set is the most I could spend on just lifters.

Maybe I'm just over thinking this...
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Have you checked the classifieds? There is a reputable member selling a new set for $400.
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Nice heads up, A DM was sent. Thank you for the info

Does anyone know of a reasonable alternative to the 2110's?
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Did you check BTR?
I bought a set of Johnson 2110s from there just 2 month ago.
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Yeah, I have called a few others like Texas Speed, Speedworld, Jegs, Summit, WS6store and some others...

They all say they have none on the shelf.
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Crap. I was going to order the Johnsons as well.

Whats going on with this lifter shortage?

I’m just moving my cam and heads from one engine to the other. 425lb open on the springs. The LS7 lifters I’m running seem to have a real high bleed rate so I thought I’d change them.

Dang
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Originally Posted by RonSSNova
Crap. I was going to order the Johnsons as well.

Whats going on with this lifter shortage?

I’m just moving my cam and heads from one engine to the other. 425lb open on the springs. The LS7 lifters I’m running seem to have a real high bleed rate so I thought I’d change them.

Dang
No Idea, I guess I am going to have to find an alternative.
Does anyone have experience with something such as a MS3 ish cam (close in specs anyway) on a gen3/gen4 engine and what lifters they used?/Recommend?
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I have a used 5000 mile set of johnson 2110s im trying to sell.
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Possibly there is a shortage of parts due to Coronavirus. Factories were idling, now there is shortage.
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DM sent,
Does anyone know if the comp cams high energy lifters are worth anything? OE-R 875?
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Have you looked at the morel 6405 drop in lifters? Tsp, btr, and sdpc have them in stock. I'm putting them in my ls1 when I do my heads and cam. I have a good friend who put them in after one of the ls7s collapsed. He's got a .601 lift cam and the valve train is quiet.
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Well that sucks. I was just about to order these and the rest of the parts to finish my car.
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Yeah, I ended up ordering a set of Comp High Energy 850s as I had a hard time even finding morels in stock. It seems as if the lifter shortage is real. Upon going to even ebay, it seems like people are buying up most listings that aren't for cheap ls7 knock off lifters. If you need lifters, don't hesitate...
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I ordered lifters today as well. Be here Wednesday.
My C5 engine swap out the top in a 1 car garage will take long enough. Didn’t need to be held up all summer waiting for lifters.

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I went to order a set from TSP a month ago and they were sold out, they did offer me 2110R they had instock for a few bucks more so i took those.Now the 2110r is hard to come by also.Grab what you can while you can as it will be awhile before things are in production to feed the masses.



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