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Guys, I know this has been posted up before but I'm usually on the LS1 forum so I have no idea as to what you guys think here. I'm looking for a very, very streetable cam for my car. Something like the GT2-3 by LPE but I just want to know if there are other, more cheaper options as well.
1. I don't want a rough idle.
2. It needs to be relatively quiet.
3. Needs to be easy to get maintanence b/c this car is my only car and it's a daily driver. I was told that either the B1 or T1 cam is good for my needs but I know that one of those is more suited for an M6. My car is a 99 Z-28 A4 with True duals, Hooker LT's, TSP lid, and a ported TB. I'd also like to not have to necessarily have it tuned.
Let me know what you think and also, if anyone has one that they're selling.
Thanks.
1. I don't want a rough idle.
2. It needs to be relatively quiet.
3. Needs to be easy to get maintanence b/c this car is my only car and it's a daily driver. I was told that either the B1 or T1 cam is good for my needs but I know that one of those is more suited for an M6. My car is a 99 Z-28 A4 with True duals, Hooker LT's, TSP lid, and a ported TB. I'd also like to not have to necessarily have it tuned.
Let me know what you think and also, if anyone has one that they're selling.
Thanks.
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The TR "Old Man Cam", or the TR220/114, anything less that a 244 on a 114 should be pretty good <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Hey Stang Killer, is tuning an absolute necessity with this cam? I'd like to avoid incurring the cost of tuning if possible.
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Comp Cams LS1 Camshaft - 212 / 218 .522 / .529 114 LSA 1200-6000 RPM Power Band. Excellent low-end power. Mild Camshaft, great for automatic cars with the stock or mild aftermarket torque converter and daily drivers. Works well with Crane 1.8 Roller Rockers.
this well help. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />
this well help. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />
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I have the LPEGT2 in my car now & i didnt choose it the builder did , & its helping my $10K stroker produce 340 RWHP!! <img border="0" alt="[cry]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cry]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" /> , i dont think there is a bigger hunk of crap on the planet , when i change cams i will take this cam & smash it with a slegdehammer so many times that it wont even make a good paperweight , ahhh maybe thats overly dramatic , if i were you id probably go with a hot cam kit ,ive heard enough good things about it </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> stang killer
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The TR "Old Man Cam", or the TR220/114, anything less that a 244 on a 114 should be pretty good
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i think he meant 224
also i had a 222/114 on my motor before the stroker , and it idled good & pulled like a mother
hope this helps ,, bdawg
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The TR "Old Man Cam", or the TR220/114, anything less that a 244 on a 114 should be pretty good
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i think he meant 224
also i had a 222/114 on my motor before the stroker , and it idled good & pulled like a mother
hope this helps ,, bdawg
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Wait a second , i meant to say "Ill sell you mine , im super happy with it , it was just too bad *** for me " J/K <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by bdawg/98mecham9:
<strong> I have the LPEGT2 in my car now & i didnt choose it the builder did , & its helping my $10K stroker produce 340 RWHP!! <img border="0" alt="[cry]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cry]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" /> , i dont think there is a bigger hunk of crap on the planet , when i change cams i will take this cam & smash it with a slegdehammer so many times that it wont even make a good paperweight , ahhh maybe thats overly dramatic , if i were you id probably go with a hot cam kit ,ive heard enough good things about it </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> stang killer
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The TR "Old Man Cam", or the TR220/114, anything less that a 244 on a 114 should be pretty good
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i think he meant 224
also i had a 222/114 on my motor before the stroker , and it idled good & pulled like a mother
hope this helps ,, bdawg </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Maybe you need a new engine builder <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I have the older version of the GT2 cam and LPE heads and it put out an easy 380 RWHP. So for you to get 340 with a stroker, there must be something wrong other then the cam. The cam is very good for someone who wants more power but doesn't want the sacrifices of a really big cam. I did change my cam to a TR224 to get as much power as possible but I still have respect for my old LPE cam. If you want to sell yours to that guy, he should jump all over it.
<strong> I have the LPEGT2 in my car now & i didnt choose it the builder did , & its helping my $10K stroker produce 340 RWHP!! <img border="0" alt="[cry]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cry]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" /> , i dont think there is a bigger hunk of crap on the planet , when i change cams i will take this cam & smash it with a slegdehammer so many times that it wont even make a good paperweight , ahhh maybe thats overly dramatic , if i were you id probably go with a hot cam kit ,ive heard enough good things about it </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> stang killer
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The TR "Old Man Cam", or the TR220/114, anything less that a 244 on a 114 should be pretty good
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i think he meant 224
also i had a 222/114 on my motor before the stroker , and it idled good & pulled like a mother
hope this helps ,, bdawg </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Maybe you need a new engine builder <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I have the older version of the GT2 cam and LPE heads and it put out an easy 380 RWHP. So for you to get 340 with a stroker, there must be something wrong other then the cam. The cam is very good for someone who wants more power but doesn't want the sacrifices of a really big cam. I did change my cam to a TR224 to get as much power as possible but I still have respect for my old LPE cam. If you want to sell yours to that guy, he should jump all over it.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Maybe you need a new engine builder </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">brother, your not kidding !! what are the specs of your cam ? mine are 205/212 .540"x2 on a 116.5 ,also what rpm"s does your cam peak at? mine is right at 5100 5200 , my 222 114 peaked at 6000 ish . i liked that much more
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Mine was 205/212 .537 .536 116.5. Looking at my dyno sheet, the hp peaked at about 6,100 rpm and stayed level until the rev limiter kicked in.
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hey lpe , where did your dyno max out at ( HP ) ? ,, because i peaked at like 5200 and 339 rwhp , i think this is just the wrong cam for a stroker , and its killing me!! im mad at rob crest @ lpe because he suggested this cam for my stroker to the builder , and he wouldnt return my calls , so yes im resentful ! , but im looking for a new cam and cant wait <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />
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Right at 380 rwhp is that is what you are asking. I would think that cam would be fine with a stroker because I belive that is what used for a long time with their strokers. If you are going with a new cam, I would suggest the TR cams. I just installed the TR224 114 and I really like it.
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Well when I was done with h/c package at LPE.
I saw 405rwhp on the GT2 cam. Now im seeing over
500rwhp. If anyone noticed. Why do you think the Z06 02 and + make so much horsepower. Check the cam specs. Sort of looks like the GT2 cams huh. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> With the GT2 cam there is no heavy Idle
and doesnt even sound like you have a different cam. It performance varies do to the different combinations you use with.
I saw 405rwhp on the GT2 cam. Now im seeing over
500rwhp. If anyone noticed. Why do you think the Z06 02 and + make so much horsepower. Check the cam specs. Sort of looks like the GT2 cams huh. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> With the GT2 cam there is no heavy Idle
and doesnt even sound like you have a different cam. It performance varies do to the different combinations you use with.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by viper killer:
<strong> Comp Cams LS1 Camshaft - 212 / 218 .522 / .529 114 LSA 1200-6000 RPM Power Band. Excellent low-end power. Mild Camshaft, great for automatic cars with the stock or mild aftermarket torque converter and daily drivers. Works well with Crane 1.8 Roller Rockers.
this well help. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I second this or the '02 Z-06 cam based on your requirements.
For an A4 all of the 112 LSA cams are out based on your requirements too.
Unless regular valvespring maintenence (every 20-30K miles) does not bother you the B1, T1, and TR cams are probably out of the equation. If you go with a comp cam and do not want to have regular valvespring maintenence stay away from the Xe-r lobes.
Hope this helps
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<strong> Comp Cams LS1 Camshaft - 212 / 218 .522 / .529 114 LSA 1200-6000 RPM Power Band. Excellent low-end power. Mild Camshaft, great for automatic cars with the stock or mild aftermarket torque converter and daily drivers. Works well with Crane 1.8 Roller Rockers.
this well help. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I second this or the '02 Z-06 cam based on your requirements.
For an A4 all of the 112 LSA cams are out based on your requirements too.
Unless regular valvespring maintenence (every 20-30K miles) does not bother you the B1, T1, and TR cams are probably out of the equation. If you go with a comp cam and do not want to have regular valvespring maintenence stay away from the Xe-r lobes.
Hope this helps
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The B1 is a very streetable cam...
Comp Cams have some new cams out...... Moderate duration, moderate lift and a 113+ Lsa and you should be streetable..... Something like 220/224 566/568 114....Would be a max for street reliability, and you probably still need tuning with a A4
The LPE cams I particularly don't like. I tried emailing them a few times and never got a response. Also two other people emailed them for info and didn't get a response either......
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Comp Cams have some new cams out...... Moderate duration, moderate lift and a 113+ Lsa and you should be streetable..... Something like 220/224 566/568 114....Would be a max for street reliability, and you probably still need tuning with a A4
The LPE cams I particularly don't like. I tried emailing them a few times and never got a response. Also two other people emailed them for info and didn't get a response either......
<small>[ March 24, 2003, 06:14 PM: Message edited by: zTrackerz ]</small>
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LPE is very secretive. I dont even know exactly what they did. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> Ya, but about returning emails. Better off calling them.
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Nice upgrade from stock, excellent torque, good daily driver cam Lift: .522/.529 Dur@.050: 212/218 LSA: 114
this sounds good for what u want. u could get the LS6 springs and stuff and still have streetability, but i would see what the gains are compared to a LS6 cam. should be good though.
this sounds good for what u want. u could get the LS6 springs and stuff and still have streetability, but i would see what the gains are compared to a LS6 cam. should be good though.
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I would think that cam would be fine with a stroker because I belive that is what used for a long time with their strokers.
is that why it looks so much like MTI"s stroker grind 232/236 .580 ish on a 114 ? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> j/k <img border="0" alt="[USA]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" />
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I would think that cam would be fine with a stroker because I belive that is what used for a long time with their strokers.
is that why it looks so much like MTI"s stroker grind 232/236 .580 ish on a 114 ? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> j/k <img border="0" alt="[USA]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" />
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My car made 380 rwhp / 372 rwtq with the TR220/114 cam and stock heads. It is very tame, almost too tame. It idles a little rough when cold, but with the cats on, once it is up to temp you have to listen to tell there is even a cam in there. My car also ran fine with stock tuning.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by FrankSS:
<strong> Nice upgrade from stock, excellent torque, good daily driver cam Lift: .522/.529 Dur@.050: 212/218 LSA: 114
this sounds good for what u want. u could get the LS6 springs and stuff and still have streetability, but i would see what the gains are compared to a LS6 cam. should be good though. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's the same cam the tech support at Comp recomended to me when I filled out their info request form. It should suit the needs you specified, but why not go for a bigger one with a little lope to it? A 224/244 .533/.533 113 LSA can be custom ordered at no extra cost, has a mild lope, and is easy on springs.
<strong> Nice upgrade from stock, excellent torque, good daily driver cam Lift: .522/.529 Dur@.050: 212/218 LSA: 114
this sounds good for what u want. u could get the LS6 springs and stuff and still have streetability, but i would see what the gains are compared to a LS6 cam. should be good though. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's the same cam the tech support at Comp recomended to me when I filled out their info request form. It should suit the needs you specified, but why not go for a bigger one with a little lope to it? A 224/244 .533/.533 113 LSA can be custom ordered at no extra cost, has a mild lope, and is easy on springs.