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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 03:59 AM
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Hello people. I appericate your time and help. Basically I have an old post with a video of my ls1 noise, which i will link.
I tore apart the top end and i found one lifter that was scared.... Do yall think this couldve been my noise? My only other question is does it matter if i ordered an 02 camaro gasket set instead of 98? Im about to pull out the cam to check if its damaged but I'm not sure what else I could check. Thanks again. car is 98 z28 93k miles... i ordered headgasket kit with bolts and im gonna order oil pump and i dont know what else..

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Seems unlikely to me. I had a couple lifters with small marks like that, though I will say they weren't as pronounced as yours, and they were as quiet as can be.

It's more likely that a lifter collapsed, or your cam is wearing badly from improper heat treatment when it was manufactured.
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 04:45 PM
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This was posted 8 months ago on YT did you figure out what happened?
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 06:37 PM
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Or this one back from February..

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...ad-lifter.html
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 07:16 PM
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Did you give your brother hard one in the yarbels for screwing up your car?

IIRC - If you are going back with '98 heads you have to run the graphite/composite gaskets if they have the notch on the deck.

WS6 Store - 98 Head Gasket


If the heads are coming off, great time to upgrade...some 243's etc or CNC 243's or CNC 5.3's etc
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 07:55 PM
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WS6 store has a MLS gasket for notched heads
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wannafbody
WS6 store has a MLS gasket for notched heads
That's good to know thanks!
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Old Oct 21, 2021 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A
Did you give your brother hard one in the yarbels for screwing up your car?

IIRC - If you are going back with '98 heads you have to run the graphite/composite gaskets if they have the notch on the deck.

WS6 Store - 98 Head Gasket


If the heads are coming off, great time to upgrade...some 243's etc or CNC 243's or CNC 5.3's etc
they are 98 heads they have november of 97 stamped on em didn't look for the notch. I sorta jumped the gun and ordered this from summit

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-12499217
Do you think the gasket will work lol... prolly not im assuming .. thx for the link for the 98s tho

And i didn't give him too hard of a time but i did make sure he learned to not do it ever again lol...
I'm just hoping i find sum wrong with the cam so im more confident putting em back together.
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Old Oct 21, 2021 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob570
Seems unlikely to me. I had a couple lifters with small marks like that, though I will say they weren't as pronounced as yours, and they were as quiet as can be.

It's more likely that a lifter collapsed, or your cam is wearing badly from improper heat treatment when it was manufactured.
I'm going to take out the cam soon, my only question is do i have to drop the oil pan to remove the oil pump? And should if I dont have to, would it be a good idea to do it anyways and replace the oil pan gasket and maybe pick up tube gasket or something? The bottom of my engine is pretty gross all around and it might be from the oil pan gasket but I doubt it. I'm also not sure if i wanna do the rear main seal or not but like I prolly should....... dude before me replaced clutch at 80k miles but i doubt he did the rear main seal... anyways thx for advice. allsoooo lol does a collapsed lifter jus mean its internally damaged or sum??
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You will have to drop the pan to get to the fastener for the pickup tube on the oil pump and I would replace the pump and o-ring. What was up with the needle bearing LS7Colorado pointed out in your original post?
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Old Oct 26, 2021 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob570
Seems unlikely to me. I had a couple lifters with small marks like that, though I will say they weren't as pronounced as yours, and they were as quiet as can be.

It's more likely that a lifter collapsed, or your cam is wearing badly from improper heat treatment when it was manufactured.
I got the camshaft out and I don’t really think I see any damage on it.... all the lifters look fine expect for the scared one. Can I lifter be bad internally? Or do you think I should replace the cam? I jus want to be sure I fix the problem before I put everything back together with new gaskets and bolts so that I don’t have to take it apart again and waste time and money:/ any and all help is appreciated thank you
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Lifter can certainly be bad internally, so can one of your rocker arms.....
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Originally Posted by Ls7colorado
Lifter can certainly be bad internally, so can one of your rocker arms.....
Hence, the reason I mentioned the needle bearing you pointed out in a previous post which we still haven't gotten an answer on.
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Originally Posted by 01CamaroSSTx
Hence, the reason I mentioned the needle bearing you pointed out in a previous post which we still haven't gotten an answer on.
exactly….
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Old Oct 27, 2021 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 01CamaroSSTx
Hence, the reason I mentioned the needle bearing you pointed out in a previous post which we still haven't gotten an answer on.
lol sorry the needle bearing that y’all think you saw in the oil was jus part of the container, like a little grove or what not but I’ll honestly go check the oil container again later with a magnet to be extra sure lol. I’m thinking I’ll put the heads back on with new ls7 lifters oil pump and headgasket n other gaskets or what not. Run the car and if the sound is still there hopefully it’s jus pushrods or rockerarms. Like I said my car is a 98 z28 Ls1 93k miles 6 speed, It’s jus my first time opening up the top end of a motor and I wanna feel confident putting it back together u kno? Anyways thanks again to everyone’s help, y’all are an amazing community.
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Originally Posted by Ls7colorado
Lifter can certainly be bad internally, so can one of your rocker arms.....
can a cam be bad internally or do I jus inspect it for bearing damage or what have you ? Because the cam looks fine there’s slight ish burn mark or whatever but it wipes off or something lol. But ye all parts of the cam are smooth. I’m thinkin I’ll put it back together with new lifters and if the sound is still there I’ll replace my rocker arms and pushrods. I’m assuming my valves are fine? Not really sure how to check and to be completely honest I barley know where the valves are and what they do 🥴
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If the is bad it would be pretty obvious with wear and metal flakes in oil. Also it would destroy a lifter or bearing.

But there is NO WAY I could put the stock cam back in…. I mean… unless I was completely broke or something and just needed the car going. But I would have checked the rockers first also if that was the case.
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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ls7colorado
If the is bad it would be pretty obvious with wear and metal flakes in oil. Also it would destroy a lifter or bearing.

But there is NO WAY I could put the stock cam back in…. I mean… unless I was completely broke or something and just needed the car going. But I would have checked the rockers first also if that was the case.
only reason I’m going with stock cam is I live in ca and can’t go any decent cam other than ls6 so I wanna jus keep this car fully stock and imma build My 5.3 that has 243 heads into my trans am. My rocker arms look fine and felt fine before I pulled them out but is there anything I should look for before putting them back in? I rolled the push rods on my floor lol and they seemed fine but I’ll definitely roll em again on a glass table to be sure. Considering I’m keeping it stock I’m jus going melling oil pump to keep it healthy and it’s jus gonna be my daily swinger lol. I also don’t mind keeping it stock because I wanna restore the car and keep it under a 100k miles.. I’m also going over seas soon and jus want to make sure it runs so that it’s not just sitting and my brother can start it once a month or sum.... also last random question but should I get ls2 timing chain and jus keep stock chain gears? Might as well considering I don’t plan on opening this motor again for a whileeeee.. hopefully. Thanks again!
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The 5.3 is a truck engine, and is not CARB legal to use in a car. It being a cast iron block will give it away,
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I wouldn’t bother with oil pump or timing chain, no need to waste money if it’s not gonna get drove another 100k miles.
It could possibly be a sticky lifter and since it’s already torn apart just throw a new set in and slap it back together.
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