WOW...just got quoted for a cam install
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Let's see... me and a few local guys from the message boards completed my cam/spring install in a day's time... and we're not experts by any means.
Some of the hold ups we had... well, the big one was that we couldn't get the lifters out of the way enough for us to slide a JPR tool-like rod into the block to help keep the lifters from falling on the passenger side. After messing around with that for a couple hours, we finally gave in and drove to Home Depot and picked up pen magnets. So, we used the rod on the driver's side, and pen magnets on the passenger side. That seemed to work ok...
It also took us a while to get the cam/timing gears lined up properly... then we went on to the tedious task of replacing valve springs, seats, and seals. Most of the work on a cam install is simply time consuming, not really too tough considering what all goes into it.
Some of the hold ups we had... well, the big one was that we couldn't get the lifters out of the way enough for us to slide a JPR tool-like rod into the block to help keep the lifters from falling on the passenger side. After messing around with that for a couple hours, we finally gave in and drove to Home Depot and picked up pen magnets. So, we used the rod on the driver's side, and pen magnets on the passenger side. That seemed to work ok...
It also took us a while to get the cam/timing gears lined up properly... then we went on to the tedious task of replacing valve springs, seats, and seals. Most of the work on a cam install is simply time consuming, not really too tough considering what all goes into it.
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Originally Posted by slik98z
I went to the one reputable shop near me to get a quote for a cam install. I told them i would have the cam, retainers, springs, pushrods and any specialty tools they would need i would provide to them to borrow...labor alone they quoted me for 17 HOURS!!!! 1173.39 just for labor for the install. Apparently i have no choice but to install this damn thing myself. or does anyone know a place in dc md or va that does good work and doesn't charge out the ***. I mean i asked the place which they wanted, my arm or my leg. So i doubt they'd even do the swap for me now anyhow.
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Originally Posted by stealth
GM book is 24 hours for an LS1 cam install, but it can be done in 8 hours by an expereinced technician.
I got h/c swap plus headers done in that amount of time?!?!?!
What's warranty pay?
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Or is that just the GM book on how much the technicians charge for the service?
I'd say have everything ready to go before install, in duplicate. Have all necessary parts/tools there, including jackstands, snakelights, etc. And study/memorize the instructions before you start, so you know what the heck they're talking about while you're doing it.
And let us know when/where you're doing it
I'd say have everything ready to go before install, in duplicate. Have all necessary parts/tools there, including jackstands, snakelights, etc. And study/memorize the instructions before you start, so you know what the heck they're talking about while you're doing it.
And let us know when/where you're doing it
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Originally Posted by technical
24 hours?
I got h/c swap plus headers done in that amount of time?!?!?!
What's warranty pay?
I got h/c swap plus headers done in that amount of time?!?!?!
What's warranty pay?
That's probably man hours. 3 techs 8 hours each.
If you want a shop to do it. Let FBC do it. They have great service. If you want to do it yourself and already have the tools. Go for it. The only thing keeping me from doing my own is the lack of tools (expensive) and amount of time involved, plus the piece of mind of it being done right (and tuned afterwards)
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Originally Posted by ls1290
For that much, a happy ending better be included
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Originally Posted by fredv
I got quote all over the place from $1500 to $350. if the they know that there doing it's a 4 hour job max. I got mine for $350 took them 2.5 hours.
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Originally Posted by stealth
I love to make bets, and I'll bet $1,000 they can't do an LS1 cam swap in a 4th gen F- body in 2.5 hours, starting out with all the stock under the hood crap in-place.
Me, myself and I have done it in 2 hours and 57 min. from popping the hood to starting the car. I wasn't trying to go fast but nothing went wrong and i took no breaks. i think maybe if i hauled *** i could get it down to 2.5 hours maybe less but i wouldn't try this on a customers car and risk missing something or messin something up.
"when you rush, thats when accidents happen"
Maybe next time i do a cam in my car or a friends car i'll go all out and see how fast i can do it.
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Originally Posted by stealth
I love to make bets, and I'll bet $1,000 they can't do an LS1 cam swap in a 4th gen F- body in 2.5 hours, starting out with all the stock under the hood crap in-place.
stealth I will be down for that bet.
You said cam swap only, nothing about the springs.
You made the bet, I will find the guy to fulfill the bet.
It takes me way longer myself, but I wont be the one doing the install.
You let me know if you are down and make sure you have the 1000 dollars handy.
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Originally Posted by stealth
I love to make bets, and I'll bet $1,000 they can't do an LS1 cam swap in a 4th gen F- body in 2.5 hours, starting out with all the stock under the hood crap in-place.
you my have a bet. we could use a video camera with a time line.
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how about you all make a bet on how long it will take someone to install my cam and all the valve train tinker toys, instead of this who can install a cam the fastest?
here is my bet, i bet no one will come up to va or md and install my cam, springs, retainers, seats, and pushrods, along with the gasket kit in less than 5 hours. If you do it, ill give you 400 bucks and a case of beer. If it takes longer, i'll give you 200 plus a case of beer and treat you to a steak dinner. how about that for a bet? any takers?
here is my bet, i bet no one will come up to va or md and install my cam, springs, retainers, seats, and pushrods, along with the gasket kit in less than 5 hours. If you do it, ill give you 400 bucks and a case of beer. If it takes longer, i'll give you 200 plus a case of beer and treat you to a steak dinner. how about that for a bet? any takers?
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lol toasty chicken, actually i just had a guy from MD pm me about 15 minutes ago who he and his buddy have done 30-40 cam installs between the two of them. they are up to the challenge it seems so looks like i wont have to be stuck diving into this blindly! plus one of them knows tuning aparently!
i've never asked before but what kinda hp should i expect if i still have a ls1 intake? i no longer have my under drive pulley, and i went to an ory and catback set up again. so my mods are slightly off from my sig.
i've never asked before but what kinda hp should i expect if i still have a ls1 intake? i no longer have my under drive pulley, and i went to an ory and catback set up again. so my mods are slightly off from my sig.