I'm I missing something in the ad, why can you get BT lifter / tray sets for on ebay for about half the price of those on amazon?

 

I wouldn't buy from either of those sources. Knock offs are out there and you don't want a lifter failure.
I got my BT lifters from Summit.

 

^^^^^^^^Absolutely^^^^^^^. This is like putting $15,000 into a huge wedding cake, then putting 25 cents worth of frosting on it. I will NEVER use Amazon OR ebay for internal engine components......

 

1) Counterfeit parts are frequently sold on Ebay.

2) Defective parts (seconds & out of spec rejects) are frequently sold on Ebay as quality parts.

3) Bad internal engine part sellers typically know anyone desperate, gullible or stupid enough to buy from them will have basically no recourse if their garbage part destroys an expensive project. Oh your $3,000 project motor/rebuild is trashed? Here's the warrant set of the same shitty lifters for the new/next engine rebuild.

If someone is willing play roulette risking eBay or similar low quality internal engine parts, they should also budget to build/rebuild their engine three to ten times or so.

 

100% on point here! Great post.

 

I'd think BTR is a reputable source. That's where my LS7 lifters came from. I haven't had issues. I believe BTR claims his are US manufactured.

 

BTR is yes... But when you see "BTR" products on Ebay or Amazon, it is NOT BTR products. They are fake parts. This **** happens to him all of the time and he is continuously working against it.

 

Buying internal engine parts on Ebay = NOT a good idea. EVER.

 

I agree there's counterfeit parts being sold out there, but how can they be so blatant about it? Wouldn't you think BT would have filed a lawsuit or just informed the proper dept. that handle these things. Most counterfeit products are sold at flea markets etc. they aren't openly adv. that would be inviting legal action.

 

Ebay IS the online flea market. Or worse. At a flea market you're face to face, a luxury not afforded online.
If every Ebay counterfeiter got hit with a lawsuit the justice system would suffocate under the weight, which is how and why they get away with it.
Bottom line- Deal ONLY with legit sources for critical engine and driveline parts. Ebay is NOT a legit source for that kind of stuff.

 

Left to right...

Original GM lifter tray, middle what I suspect is a chinesium lifter tray, right is a NEW GM lifter tray...

 

^^^^^^^ There. You. Go.

 

You never have enough time to do it right, BUT always have time to do it over!

 

[QUOTE=99 Black Bird T/A;20535456]1) Counterfeit parts are frequently sold on Ebay.

2) Defective parts (seconds & out of spec rejects) are frequently sold on Ebay as quality parts.

3) Bad internal engine part sellers typically know anyone desperate, gullible or stupid enough to buy from them will have basically no recourse if their garbage part destroys an expensive project. Oh your $3,000 project motor/rebuild is trashed? Here's the warrant set of the same shitty lifters for the new/next engine rebuild.

If someone is willing play roulette risking eBay or similar low quality internal engine parts, they should also budget to build/rebuild their engine three to ten times or so.


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Defective parts are a larger problem than many think. I live in Michigan, and have worked closely with the major, OEM domestic, and some import manufacturers. Many here would be amazed what little defects will cause a defective part. I won't name the company, because I never saw it with my own eyes. But I'll tell you what a very respected engine builder in Michigan told me back in 2013/2014. He had no reason to lie, because I'd already spent my $$$$, and bought my LS7 block from him. He named a guy in Michigan who runs a parts company. New and used. I have actually bought a couple of used interior parts for my C5 before I was aware of this. I was told that he had an inside source at the GM plant that cast LS7 blocks. Defective ones were grouped in a "Did not pass" gondola/dumpster. Apparently, every now and then the guy at GM was providing rejected blocks, for a fee, I'm sure. The guy with the new/used parts business would then sell these blocks for $1,000 under what GM was selling them for. IDK if any other LS blocks were being solicited. But I'm telling the truth, as far as what I was told. The old saying you get what you pay for is still a yardstick of sorts. If you see a "new" LS7 block for $2000-$2,500, there's probably a damn good reason. FWIW.....

 

This is one area you don't want to skimp out on, watch out for cheap knock offs on PAC valve springs, rocker arms, trunnion kits as well. Huge cost differentials on similar products should be a red flag. Another area not to skimp on sensors, I used GM stuff only.

 

The add said, Set for Brian Tooley Lifters etc. but if you look further down to the details under brand, it says:TIANLU What kind of deceptive advertising is that?

 

As 02EBC5z said, it happens all the time on eBay to Brian. Glad you caught this before you purchased. The entire world is full of scammers and thieves.

 

This is the kind s#*t we're talking about on Ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/38572890294...3ABFBMlKb5wZdj


Here's the feedback info on the company.



Dig deeper and you'll find out about the company you're buying from. You might pay a little now but you'll end up paying alot more later on.

 

Don't ever buy internal engine parts from Amazon or Ebay. It would be easier and more cost effective to just drain the oil from your car and hold it on the rev limiter until it stops by itself.

 

Can we just all agree for a minute, that plastic lifter trays were a bad idea, regardless of who made them?

GM COULD have made some sort of steel lifter retaining device, like they did on the Gen I/ II V8s.
BUT THEY DIDN'T, AND THEY OPENED A PANDORA'S BOX OF POTENTIAL BAD DESIGNS.

While we're on the subject, WHY IN THE ******* HELL DID GM DESIGN THESE ENGINES IN A WAY THAT REQUIRES REMOVAL OF THE CYLINDER HEADS TO SERVICE THE LIFTERS?

Seriously, I want an answer.