Cheatr Cam...
Originally Posted by Vortech
Geoff what do you think the cheatr cam is worth over the stock 02Z06 cam? Is there maybe something more optimal for the Z06 do it's freer flowing exhaust? There's like a 10 degree difference in duration plus the added lift which would take advantage of the AFR's. I'm guessing at least 10rwhp-what do you think? Man that would be like 424 or like 480 horse out of a 346-man these motors are badass!
I don't like to over commit on the HP numbers. IMHO it should do better but without back to back testing I don't have a solid answer for you.
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From: BFE
Originally Posted by Geoff
I agree. Personally I still think the Cheater cam will have more potential than everyone thinks with headers. This is just speculation on my part at this point, however. Jason is putting headers on his car in a couple of weeks. At this point I think we will have some solid answers on what this thing will do cam only.
Basically like Geoff said, if you want to remain inconspicuous
, the Cheater is a great addition to the "Stealthy" cams allready available on the market. So is the 02 cam with about 2 to 4 degrees advance into it...GM knew what they were doing with this cam,I;ve just seen a guy dyno 414RW threw manifolds running AFR's and the 02 LS6 cam...
Geoff, i ordered the CheaTR cam through Paul during the freaky friday sale, im assuming it will be here soon.
Currently Im running a set of Dynatech Longtube Headers, a SLP lid and a FAST 90/NW 90 TB set up. With the stock catback and these mods, i trapped 109.4 mph tonight. I will be installing a magnaflow catback wednesday and the Cheater cam shortly after with stock LS1 heads. Ill dyno and take her to the track when its all done and post up the results. Ill be doing AFR heads then after but need a clutch and tires first.
-Scoobs
Currently Im running a set of Dynatech Longtube Headers, a SLP lid and a FAST 90/NW 90 TB set up. With the stock catback and these mods, i trapped 109.4 mph tonight. I will be installing a magnaflow catback wednesday and the Cheater cam shortly after with stock LS1 heads. Ill dyno and take her to the track when its all done and post up the results. Ill be doing AFR heads then after but need a clutch and tires first.
-Scoobs
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From: Abilene, Tx
Originally Posted by Drew778
Is your cam the MTI stealth?
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From: Wilkes-Barre, Pa
Originally Posted by TT_Vert
any idea if this cam would work well on a c5 w/ its exhaust? I dont know how similar the fbody exhaust is to the c5 exhaust.
Dave
Dave
The C5 exhaust isn't that much different. Numbers in sig.
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Originally Posted by BriGuy
Technically yes it is. Although I did not purchase it through MTI. I was keeping a close eye on this board back when Colonel was testing out that cam, right before MTI starting making it. So, when I saw that Colonel liked it I went through Combination Motorsports to get the cam.
And people wonder why some places keep their cam specs secret!
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From: Abilene, Tx
Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
Way to go to support the guys who did the R&D and came up with the cam!
And people wonder why some places keep their cam specs secret!
And people wonder why some places keep their cam specs secret!
I've been bouncing cam ideas for weeks now..I came to the conclusion for me,the 02 LS6 cam adv 4 degrees should be the ticket..I'll be doing either Edlebrocks,AFR's or TEA S1.5 with this setup along with a March pulley and Ptb threw ported manifolds...
I'm hoping for 380RW threw my A4 GTO...
Dead stock idle with lots of TQ
I'm hoping for 380RW threw my A4 GTO...
Dead stock idle with lots of TQ
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From: BFE
Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
Way to go to support the guys who did the R&D and came up with the cam!
And people wonder why some places keep their cam specs secret!
And people wonder why some places keep their cam specs secret!
224/220 .581/.581 116lsa (Stealth II).
If you order that through any manufacturer, that doesn't mean you have a copy of the original.
You have to know all the VE's and EVOs etc.. to duplicate a cam.
The only way to clone a cam is to Cam Doctor the original and then duplicate it.
After reading this thread and checking out TR's site, I'm really interested in this cam.
Do I need to buy the cam package TR offers for the install? It comes with:
- cheaTR cam
- Comp Cams 26918 Valve Springs
- Thunder Racing Stock Length Pushrods (7.400)
All for $599. Is this the best way to spend my money? I'm still stock headers/cats/titanium exhaust. Also, will I need retainers? I am on a budget, so if I don't need it, I'm not going to buy it! Installing myself.
Thanks!
Do I need to buy the cam package TR offers for the install? It comes with:
- cheaTR cam
- Comp Cams 26918 Valve Springs
- Thunder Racing Stock Length Pushrods (7.400)
All for $599. Is this the best way to spend my money? I'm still stock headers/cats/titanium exhaust. Also, will I need retainers? I am on a budget, so if I don't need it, I'm not going to buy it! Installing myself.
Thanks!
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Specs at .050 tel you squat.
224/220 .581/.581 116lsa (Stealth II).
If you order that through any manufacturer, that doesn't mean you have a copy of the original.
You have to know all the VE's and EVOs etc.. to duplicate a cam.
The only way to clone a cam is to Cam Doctor the original and then duplicate it.
224/220 .581/.581 116lsa (Stealth II).
If you order that through any manufacturer, that doesn't mean you have a copy of the original.
You have to know all the VE's and EVOs etc.. to duplicate a cam.
The only way to clone a cam is to Cam Doctor the original and then duplicate it.
Bret
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Geoff/Patrick,
Would this cam work well with a set of LPE Ported LS6 heads milled .030? Would P/V clearance be an issue here? What valve springs would be recommended? Any idea what length pushrods with the stock LS6 valves? I will be buying a cam soon to go with my LS6 heads and I am very interested in this cam if it will work for me.
Thx for the info ... JHH
Would this cam work well with a set of LPE Ported LS6 heads milled .030? Would P/V clearance be an issue here? What valve springs would be recommended? Any idea what length pushrods with the stock LS6 valves? I will be buying a cam soon to go with my LS6 heads and I am very interested in this cam if it will work for me.
Thx for the info ... JHH
Originally Posted by bluecamaroz28
Anyone tried TR Cheater-Cam with long tube headers. Is it performing or falling short compared to stock manifold?
Any dyno numbers.?
Any dyno numbers.?
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.