4.125 world products bare block?
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The iron motown block is about $2000. I doubt WP would sell an aluminum aftermarket block for less than $3500. I think its going to be priced right around where the motownlite blocks are.
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A .060 overbore capable 4.125" standard bore block would be nice. 454ci = 4.185" bore * 4.125" stroke.
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SDPC is also evidently talking with GMPP about the possibility of a GMPP "bowtie" Gen III/IV block.
Then there is some rumor about the Aussie's coming out with a big bore Gen III block too.
Life is gonna be good here soon I have a feeling.
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SDPC is also evidently talking with GMPP about the possibility of a GMPP "bowtie" Gen III/IV block.
Then there is some rumor about the Aussie's coming out with a big bore Gen III block too.
Life is gonna be good here soon I have a feeling.
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Kostecki in western australia ,cnc a 450ci ally block that takes all your std ls1 parts. They made it from scatch ,so add a strocker kit and have some fun ,u would have close to or over 500ci
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Originally Posted by letsgo
Kostecki in western australia ,cnc a 450ci ally block that takes all your std ls1 parts. They made it from scatch ,so add a strocker kit and have some fun ,u would have close to or over 500ci ![EEK !!](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_eek2.gif)
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Originally Posted by KEC webpage
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Kostecki Engine Center are in the final stages of completing their LS1 GEN 3 all Western Australia made block capable of 454 cubic inches this block is the same as the std oem block in external dimensions.
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Hey Guys,
We are in on this through the back door, but cannot say a lot at this point. Just helping them through a representative as we can. It will be a nice piece similar to the C5R block in design and components. Pricing will be in the $3000-3500 area at this point and should be available in the Fall at the earliest. If you look at their Motown lite aluminum blocks they are in the $3500-4000 area price wise. There are several other LSx based components coming also
Be patient.
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We are in on this through the back door, but cannot say a lot at this point. Just helping them through a representative as we can. It will be a nice piece similar to the C5R block in design and components. Pricing will be in the $3000-3500 area at this point and should be available in the Fall at the earliest. If you look at their Motown lite aluminum blocks they are in the $3500-4000 area price wise. There are several other LSx based components coming also
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Hey Guys,
A couple more notes I am able to pass on. The oil system is being changed slightly. It will be a dry sleeve setup as well as offering two different deck heights. We are trying to make this capable of going to 500ci. With the taller deck, a new manifold will be available as well as spacers for stock intakes. Extra head bolt holes as needed will be there as well as specific head for that application. The cam journals will be larger allowing more lift with less ratio on a larger base circle and the cams will be readily available for approximately the same pricing as today. Basically it will be able to be a direct bolt in capable of being a full race application.
As I said, be patient and more info will follow. Hope this helps.
Mike Norris
A couple more notes I am able to pass on. The oil system is being changed slightly. It will be a dry sleeve setup as well as offering two different deck heights. We are trying to make this capable of going to 500ci. With the taller deck, a new manifold will be available as well as spacers for stock intakes. Extra head bolt holes as needed will be there as well as specific head for that application. The cam journals will be larger allowing more lift with less ratio on a larger base circle and the cams will be readily available for approximately the same pricing as today. Basically it will be able to be a direct bolt in capable of being a full race application.
As I said, be patient and more info will follow. Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by Mike Norris
No problem guys. Just do not hound me for info as it is still in the works. Pretty much a definite go on everything, just a waiting game. As more info becomes available I will pass it on. Later.
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Some of the comments in this thread got me thinking. The small block Chevy has a 4.4" bore spacing, correct? What is the minimum amount of material you need between each cylinder? To me, I believe that 4.125" bore is probably about as much as possible to leave enough material intact between cylinders.
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There are aftermarket SBC blocks that can go out to 4.185" and Steve from Race Engine Development was talking about making a MID sleeve setup that could go to 4.2".
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Originally Posted by Mike Norris
Hey Guys,
We are in on this through the back door, but cannot say a lot at this point. Just helping them through a representative as we can. It will be a nice piece similar to the C5R block in design and components. Pricing will be in the $3000-3500 area at this point and should be available in the Fall at the earliest. If you look at their Motown lite aluminum blocks they are in the $3500-4000 area price wise. There are several other LSx based components coming also
Be patient.
Mike Norris
We are in on this through the back door, but cannot say a lot at this point. Just helping them through a representative as we can. It will be a nice piece similar to the C5R block in design and components. Pricing will be in the $3000-3500 area at this point and should be available in the Fall at the earliest. If you look at their Motown lite aluminum blocks they are in the $3500-4000 area price wise. There are several other LSx based components coming also
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Edited due to to misread: So are we talking 5 bolt cylinder heads??
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Cool stuff. Thanks for the info. One other thing...provisions for electronics? Are we going to see this piece be able to accept factory knock sensors, cam and crank position sensors and the like?
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Originally Posted by xfactor_pitbulls
You know I was kinda speaking out of my *** earlier. I wasnt thinking about the darton MID blocks. They get 4.125 out of them. Best I recall they are about $3k. Call me on that one if I am wrong. If the block is under $2K I am going to get one, otherwise not. The 6.0 blocked 402/408 is just fine otherwise
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Dart is building an LS1 block as well...from what i understand they are just in the design stages as of yet, i was told it would be atleast a year from early may (when i talked to them) before it would be released. but my new Dart heads are the shizzyyyy
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Originally Posted by liftin'em on nittos
Dart is building an LS1 block as well...from what i understand they are just in the design stages as of yet, i was told it would be atleast a year from early may (when i talked to them) before it would be released. but my new Dart heads are the shizzyyyy