Lifter stuck in lifter bore, wont come out normally, options/suggestions?
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Lifter stuck in lifter bore, wont come out normally, options/suggestions?
99 z28 m6 106K
well ya im down to the block and the lifter just doesnt wanna come out. all the others came out with a pen magnet, this one wont come out with pliers (being gentle). i know someone who has a puller and can take it out that way and then hone the lifter bore, but what is the best way to go about this? I dont want to pull the motor unless it is absolutely necessary. thanks.
well ya im down to the block and the lifter just doesnt wanna come out. all the others came out with a pen magnet, this one wont come out with pliers (being gentle). i know someone who has a puller and can take it out that way and then hone the lifter bore, but what is the best way to go about this? I dont want to pull the motor unless it is absolutely necessary. thanks.
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Originally Posted by conan
Have you tried sticking the cam back in and rolling it over it get the lifter to move up and down? don't know if it will work or not just giving sugestions.
Originally Posted by P Mack
If the cam is out maybe you could tap it back down and catch it with a magnet tool where the cam would go.
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You can pull it out by hand, but it will be tough. clean the lifter tray thoroughly (remove the oil), install it on the lifter, turn the cam and pull on the tray. This should stick the lifter far enough into the tray for removal. Or you can use needle nose pliers carefully to remove it. The key is to make sure you are pulling the lifter "straight out" and not at an angle, otherwise it will fall back down when you try to pull it. You can tell when it's straight up or centered when there is no resistance as you slowly pull it up. Hope this helps.
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the last time this happened to me was when a comp r lifter cam apart on me and deformed the lifter bore...i was wondering for a long time how come it cont come out untill i had the engine out and had to use a big hammer to knock it through the other side...block was ruined
was your car making knockin noices at all before this?
was your car making knockin noices at all before this?
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I bet the cam side of the lifter is damaged preventing you from pulling it out . Pull the cam and tap it in the other way , that is the only way I know how to remove a lifter that has been damaged . At least that was what happened to mine . Lots of tapping/ knocking noises was what prompted me to tear it apart and find the source . If it wasn't damaged , it would come out with your fingers .
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thats what i was saying?
was you block messed up at all?
well my lifter got stuck becasue the rod that the roller tip rides on slide out the side and when it was on the upstroke it jamed on the block and my cam broke the lifter into a thousand pieces and since it was jamed into the block the lifter bore was fecked
had to get a new short block
was you block messed up at all?
well my lifter got stuck becasue the rod that the roller tip rides on slide out the side and when it was on the upstroke it jamed on the block and my cam broke the lifter into a thousand pieces and since it was jamed into the block the lifter bore was fecked
had to get a new short block
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Originally Posted by jerflash
thats what i was saying?
was you block messed up at all?
well my lifter got stuck becasue the rod that the roller tip rides on slide out the side and when it was on the upstroke it jamed on the block and my cam broke the lifter into a thousand pieces and since it was jamed into the block the lifter bore was fecked
had to get a new short block
was you block messed up at all?
well my lifter got stuck becasue the rod that the roller tip rides on slide out the side and when it was on the upstroke it jamed on the block and my cam broke the lifter into a thousand pieces and since it was jamed into the block the lifter bore was fecked
had to get a new short block
The bore was messed up a little bit , but the machine shop was able to get it back to spec by honing it out . The block was fine . I guess I was lucky it didnt bury pieces of the lifter in the block .
Last edited by 1999T/A; 06-20-2005 at 10:49 AM.
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Originally Posted by CAT3
Is there any way to try and turn it? If its stuck in the bore, I would guess it turned in the bore, so maybe if you could try and turn it.
Originally Posted by DrkPhx
You can pull it out by hand, but it will be tough. clean the lifter tray thoroughly (remove the oil), install it on the lifter, turn the cam and pull on the tray. This should stick the lifter far enough into the tray for removal. Or you can use needle nose pliers carefully to remove it. The key is to make sure you are pulling the lifter "straight out" and not at an angle, otherwise it will fall back down when you try to pull it. You can tell when it's straight up or centered when there is no resistance as you slowly pull it up. Hope this helps.
Originally Posted by jerflash
the last time this happened to me was when a comp r lifter cam apart on me and deformed the lifter bore...i was wondering for a long time how come it cont come out untill i had the engine out and had to use a big hammer to knock it through the other side...block was ruined
was your car making knockin noices at all before this?
was your car making knockin noices at all before this?
Originally Posted by 1999T/A
I bet the cam side of the lifter is damaged preventing you from pulling it out . Pull the cam and tap it in the other way , that is the only way I know how to remove a lifter that has been damaged . At least that was what happened to mine . Lots of tapping/ knocking noises was what prompted me to tear it apart and find the source . If it wasn't damaged , it would come out with your fingers .
Originally Posted by jerflash
thats what i was saying?
was you block messed up at all?
well my lifter got stuck becasue the rod that the roller tip rides on slide out the side and when it was on the upstroke it jamed on the block and my cam broke the lifter into a thousand pieces and since it was jamed into the block the lifter bore was fecked
had to get a new short block
was you block messed up at all?
well my lifter got stuck becasue the rod that the roller tip rides on slide out the side and when it was on the upstroke it jamed on the block and my cam broke the lifter into a thousand pieces and since it was jamed into the block the lifter bore was fecked
had to get a new short block
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i hope things turn out for you. i think your best bet would be to knock down into the motor and try to catch it. this same thing happened to me and i had to get a new shortblock.
best wishes
best wishes
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well i could have probably honed it out to spec also but i had it out so i got a forged short block for a steal and could not pass it up
i may do it now anyway to salvage the motor
i may do it now anyway to salvage the motor
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**** UPDATE ****
Lifter Shattered
Half of the roller is somewhere in the motor and there are 2 other big chunks somewhere else.
I will post pics prob tomorrow.
What do you think caused this to happen?
A motor estimated a 1400 rebuild and a downtime of ~3 weeks cuz he kinda does this on the side.
Should i throw in an extra grand and go forged or do the 1400 and spend it somewhere else. No nitrous, SC, or turbo for me anytime soon.
Lifter Shattered
Half of the roller is somewhere in the motor and there are 2 other big chunks somewhere else.
I will post pics prob tomorrow.
What do you think caused this to happen?
A motor estimated a 1400 rebuild and a downtime of ~3 weeks cuz he kinda does this on the side.
Should i throw in an extra grand and go forged or do the 1400 and spend it somewhere else. No nitrous, SC, or turbo for me anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by conan
I would say if you have the extra money at least do forged rods and pistions, that way if you want to throw a power adder at it that will be one less thing to worry about. What type of internal damage was done?
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Originally Posted by jerflash
what lifters were you runing???
i bet the roller rod slide out
i bet the roller rod slide out
i dont know about the roller rod, it was still on when we yanked it out except half the roller was gone and the bearings would fall out with no trouble at all.