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Old 07-20-2005, 12:37 AM
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could be a bearing
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Originally Posted by 8GTOKLR
could be a bearing
You mean a ball from the bearing? This thing is a flat piece of metal. It has a very slight curve to it.
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Thats a piece of a bearing.
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Looks like a piece of a bearing to me
Old 07-20-2005, 06:56 AM
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I'm going with it being a piece of valve spring too.
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I like how someone says something and everyone just agrees. I see no possible way that that is a piece of a ring. It is curved the wrong way and is about 4 times as wide. My vote goes to it being a piece of a bearing (not a ball bearing) Like this:



How can a piece of a valvespring get into the oil pan?
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Originally Posted by 777
I like how someone says something and everyone just agrees. I see no possible way that that is a piece of a ring. It is curved the wrong way and is about 4 times as wide. My vote goes to it being a piece of a bearing (not a ball bearing) Like this:



How can a piece of a valvespring get into the oil pan?
That's what I was going by plus I just pulled a motor apart yesterday that ate a bearing and the pieces in the pan looked like that
Old 07-20-2005, 10:26 AM
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its called:
the motor runs fine and short of the engine seizing, i cant afford a new motor anyway, so im going to just keep driving it, piece of metal.


atleast, thats what id call it if it was mine.
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hrmm why didnt i think about it being a huge piece of a bearing...
Old 07-20-2005, 11:28 AM
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I'd say it looks like a bearing. I pull the motor and drop the pan. there could be more on the bottom of the pan. Not good at all man.
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Originally Posted by gator's 99TA
its the bottom of a valve spring. you owe me a beer if i am right.
I agree it's part of a valve spring damper

IT'S NOT PART OF A BEARING!!!!! THERE WOULD BE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THE MOTOR IF IT WAS!

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how could part of the valve spring get down to the bottom of the pan? oil galleys?
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Originally Posted by Brandon
how could part of the valve spring get down to the bottom of the pan? oil galleys?
i don't know exatly how it could make it down, but it can. when changing cams in a buddies car we dropped a couple of keepers (thought they were all out of the engine). when he changed his oil after about 200 miles later there was a keeper stuck on the drain plug. it can get to the bottom.
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Originally Posted by Brandon
how could part of the valve spring get down to the bottom of the pan? oil galleys?
because its all one open area. the top of the heads, crankcase, valley, its all the same area.
matter of fact,thats how the oil gets back to the pan. after being pumped up thru the pushrods and onto the rockers/springs, it puddles up in the head and drizzles down the big open holes, into the crankcase valley, and eventually down to the pan.
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I would start by just pulling the valve covers and checking the springs. It is easy to do and anything else will require you to pull it apart. It is hard to say from the picture.
The main thrust bearing is another possibility. Hopefully it is just a broken spring or something simple.
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Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
I agree it's part of a valve spring damper

IT'S NOT PART OF A BEARING!!!!! THERE WOULD BE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THE MOTOR IF IT WAS!

Bret
And you wouldn't have a problem with the engine if it had a broken valve spring
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I went to a shop today. Guy had 8 new LS1/6 long blocks in there he was building and a new C5R block (Nice). At least 10 LS6 heads and intakes he was porting.

He said its a piece of the spring damper from my 941 springs. He showed me some broken ones that he had saved and they are exactly like this. Plus he measured it and its exactly what it is. He said its been a problem for almost 10 years. He also said the dampers are a waste of time to use, they do nothing. He never uses them anymore on any builds that he does. He got 545 RWHP from an LS6 427 he just did that idles smooooth.

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He said to pull the covers to check for more (just to be sure), but he also said he thinks its a piece from when ARE took the motor apart last time to refresh (re-ring it) and never got it out. Because the engine is whisper quiet and runs perfectly.

Didn't think it was a bearing or ring. I don't see what part of a bearing even looks like that, he showed me a bunch of them.
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Well good to know you found the problem. John is a genious.
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Originally Posted by 777
Well good to know you found the problem. John is a genious.
What a great guy at the shop too. He just called me like 2 minutes ago and said that he can't just let me leave his shop knowing that I came there asking what the problem could be, and than find out he was right about a spring possibly breaking on me in 2-3 days and losing my engine.

So he gave me the number to two of his friends that can take my valve covers off for me tonight or tomorrow to make sure everything is OK. $70.00 for the labor. Is that a good deal?
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Well, for someone to do it, yes. It takes 20 minutes to take both valve covers off. You'd just have to know what to look for.



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