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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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F13 FMS Custom Grind Camshaft - 230"/232" .595"/.585" 112LSA Cam

For a stock firehawk. My big questions now are what do I --need-- to install along with this cam?
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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check out the cam guide sticky, it should answer most of your questions
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i got a kit that had the dual springs, pushrods, titanium valve seats for the top and bottom of the spring and new valve seals. people also say to replaince the timing chain. i did not but i wish i would have, its cheap insurance. but FOR sure get pushrods and i would get new springs.

oh and get a day or 2 off work and a buddy to help=) makes the work go much faster
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go to ls1howto.com that will give you detailed steps and pics you need for the install as well as the tools needed
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You will need a dual spring kit from PRC/TSP or Patriot as well as a set of hardened pushrods and a new timing chain.. You can get all of that stuff from Futral when you order the F13 cam.
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alright, thanks alot
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ok, so now at futral's website and they have cam packages. This will supply me with all I need right?
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These are all the packages that they have. I am so lost as to which ones to get.


1. FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp 26918 Springs, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $249.00


2. FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp Titanium Retainers to Comp 26918 Spring Package (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $155.00


3. FM2-Dual Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Manley Dual Drop In Springs, Manley Titanium Retainers, Manley Seats, Intake/Exhaust Valve Stem Seals, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $399.00


4. FM2-Dual Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade-Add Precision Race Components Dual Valve Spring Kit (Includes dual springs rated to .650 lift, titanium retainers, seats, intake & exhaust seals), FMS 7.400" Chromemoly Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection $350.00


5. FMC-CAMSWAP KIT 2 GM Valve Cover Gaskets, 2 GM Water Pump Gaskets, GM Crank Bolt, GM Timing Cover Seal, GM Timing Cover Gasket
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please help
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Originally Posted by markp03
i got a kit that had the dual springs, pushrods, titanium valve seats for the top and bottom of the spring and new valve seals. people also say to replaince the timing chain. i did not but i wish i would have, its cheap insurance. but FOR sure get pushrods and i would get new springs.

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Yeah, springs would be a requirement with that cam really.

Oh, and I bet you mean spring seats and retainers, not valve seats.
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These are all the packages that they have. I am so lost as to which ones to get.


1. FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp 26918 Springs, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $249.00


2. FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp Titanium Retainers to Comp 26918 Spring Package (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $155.00


3. FM2-Dual Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Manley Dual Drop In Springs, Manley Titanium Retainers, Manley Seats, Intake/Exhaust Valve Stem Seals, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $399.00


4. FM2-Dual Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade-Add Precision Race Components Dual Valve Spring Kit (Includes dual springs rated to .650 lift, titanium retainers, seats, intake & exhaust seals), FMS 7.400" Chromemoly Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection $350.00


5. FMC-CAMSWAP KIT 2 GM Valve Cover Gaskets, 2 GM Water Pump Gaskets, GM Crank Bolt, GM Timing Cover Seal, GM Timing Cover Gasket
$55.00



please help

oh and do I have to do upgrade one before two?
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Originally Posted by co.6z28
check out the cam guide sticky, it should answer most of your questions
All I found was that I need new springs
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double springs from manley
titanium Retainers
Hardend pushrods
Seats/seals/shims


done

You DONT NEED a timing chain. And if you were gonna do one.. double roller I would go with.
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What do you have planned for tuning and exhaust? Both are critical if you're going to enjoy that cam.
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The first level of springs are referring to the Comp 918 springs that they're asking $250. You can get those for $179 from Comp directly. That's all you need for the lift and rpm on that cam. Pushrods will cost about $100, you don't NEED to do the timing chain if you have 45k miles or less, but it along with a new ported oil pump can't hurt. You'll also need a tool for holding up the lifters. Home Depot has 1/4" aluminum rods that you can sharpen the end a bit and mark for cam length so you know it's bottomed out in the block. If you like pm me and I'll get you my cell number. Details take forever to type! Good luck!
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The first level of springs are referring to the Comp 918 springs that they're asking $250. You can get those for $179 from Comp directly. That's all you need for the lift and rpm on that cam. Pushrods will cost about $100, you don't NEED to do the timing chain if you have 45k miles or less, but it along with a new ported oil pump can't hurt. You'll also need a tool for holding up the lifters. Home Depot has 1/4" aluminum rods that you can sharpen the end a bit and mark for cam length so you know it's bottomed out in the block. If you like pm me and I'll get you my cell number. Details take forever to type! Good luck!

Well I am at 54k so I will need the new timing chain? And I am also wondering about my cam selection. I am trying to pick between F12 and F13, I want the F13, but I am wondering about the differences in the two and how they are for street driving.
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are you completely stock right now? If you are WAIT... don't put the cart before the horse. Make sure you have the supporting induction and exhaust mods, plus some extra goodies (chassis, suspension, drivetrain) to help get the extra power to the pavement efficiently. And as was mentioned, a good tune is critical to get the cam to run right...

Once you got that stuff lined up, then go with the cam kit that gives you the double springs, new pushrods, and requisite gaskets (option #3).
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well it is stock...technically. Since it is a Firehawk it already has upgraded suspension and SLP exhaust, etc.

So i guess it is stock, but a stock firehawk. Do I still need to add exhaust etc?
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Originally Posted by DBeck
well it is stock...technically. Since it is a Firehawk it already has upgraded suspension and SLP exhaust, etc.

So i guess it is stock, but a stock firehawk. Do I still need to add exhaust etc?
Yes... longtubes are a must for a cam like that.
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dang. Well what longtubes do you suggest and where can i find some good ones? Ae they expensive?
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