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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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I got a used set of patriot dual springs from this board last week. they are going on my car tonight. I need to know if I NEED anything else to make them work. i have the dual springs with locks, retainers and valve seats(dark grey things that look like smaller retainers.
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read my post #13 somewhere on the bottom, and reffer to the picture that I posted.
That's basicaly a whole kit right there

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/350467-need-help-changing-out-valvesprings.html

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Originally Posted by yak
I got a used set of patriot dual springs from this board last week. they are going on my car tonight. I need to know if I NEED anything else to make them work. i have the dual springs with locks, retainers and valve seats(dark grey things that look like smaller retainers.
You'll want new stem seals and the necessary tools.
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well here is my problem, I don't have seals and I need to have my cam by tommorow. can I use the stock seats and seals with the gold springs or can i resuse the stock seals?
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for inquireing minds you can use the stock seats with the duals. my springs sit flay on the seats. now I just need to make sure I actually have a g5x3, there is nothing written on it.
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for inquireing minds you can use the stock seats with the duals. my springs sit flay on the seats. now I just need to make sure I actually have a g5x3, there is nothing written on it.
Did you mic the setup w/ stock seats and Patriot retainers to see what installed height you'll have?

Not sure how you got to the conclusion it's OK to reuse stock seats w/ aftermarket springs, but if it's been proven to work and the manufacturer says it's OK then it's a step saved.
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well here is my problem, I don't have seals and I need to have my cam by tommorow. can I use the stock seats and seals with the gold springs or can i resuse the stock seals?
As far as reusing seals after they've been installed and removed, just go ahead and dump a qt or so of oil into your throttle body. Same outcome.
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ok, well i never touched the seals. I called patriot yesterday and the guy on the line saidf that as long as the inner spring cleared the lip on the seat that it was ok to use them.
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