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Old 11-06-2005, 04:11 AM
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Default PP Stage 3 Ls6 heads..who has them on a 346?

These heads look awesome...everyone seems to run the stage 2's though and i cant seem to find anything on the stage 3's...
Who here runs these heads on a 346? What kinda power are they making?
Any reason not to run these?
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why would you put heads with 2.08's on a 346????????? or do they have 2.055's
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Originally Posted by dame
why would you put heads with 2.08's on a 346????????? or do they have 2.055's
actually they are 2.08's for the stage 3's...any particular reason why you couldnt run these on a 346? Fill me in..I'm learning here..the whole point of the post.
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i will be running those on my new 6.0...
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346....... 2.055's (which you'd get in a "stage 2") will be more than enough....also If it were my money... I'd call TEA and talk to Brian Tooley before I purchased Patriots.
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Originally Posted by dame
346....... 2.055's (which you'd get in a "stage 2") will be more than enough....also If it were my money... I'd call TEA and talk to Brian Tooley before I purchased Patriots.
Yeah i know most people say that it would be more than enough, but i want more flow than that for the cost Patriot has to offer. Their heads make good numbers lately i think because they newly revised their work from what i read. There is nothing wrong with TEA or AFR , their heads are awesome, but out of my budget.
The stage 3's at Patriot are $1,195 and they flow 322/327 at .600 lift
here are the specs........
Could you tell me why NOT to use these??

Stage III 1020 Superflow Bench 4.125 Bore



Lift
2.08" Intake
1.60" Exhaust

.100
78 cfm
66 cfm

.200
147 cfm
124 cfm

.300
209 cfm
164 cfm

.400
255 cfm
206 cfm

.500
296 cfm
229 cfm

.550
312 cfm
232 cfm

.600
322 cfm
237 cfm



Part #
Description
MSRP

2014
Bare 2.08"/1.60"/64cc
$995.00 pair

2015
Assy. 2.08"/1.60"/64cc
$1,195.00 pair

2034
Bare 2.08"/1.60"/68cc
$995.00 pair

2035
Assy. 2.08"/1.60"/68cc
$1,195.00 pair
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Well one reason why is because that is to big of a valve for a 346, i think it will hurt more than help. And another is those flow numbers were on a 4.125 bore not on a stock bore. The stage II head will be better on the 346. IMO .
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You'll not benefit from stage 3 on stock cubes.
You'll shroud the intake valve.
bigger or more peak flow, does not mean more power. (look for lift curve)
What is the cam you're running?
I any case Stage 2 would be the ones for you, and if your cam is lower than 230 intake, 2.02 valves will be enough.
Heads are not all about peak flow. Look for port velocity, intake port to exhaust %, smooth runner finish etc....
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
You'll not benefit from stage 3 on stock cubes.
You'll shroud the intake valve.
bigger or more peak flow, does not mean more power. (look for lift curve)
What is the cam you're running?
I any case Stage 2 would be the ones for you, and if your cam is lower than 230 intake, 2.02 valves will be enough.
Heads are not all about peak flow. Look for port velocity, intake port to exhaust %, smooth runner finish etc....
Well the intake is higher than 230...so what is recommended valve wise?
I am running a Comp XER (232/240 .588/.610 112+2)
So whats the biggest head/valves you can run on a 346? I know the AFR 225's will work. I believe Rapid Motorsports had some crazy flowing heads, just cant remember which ones they were.
I was trying to focus on the Patriots though because of the price. I imagine you can get the stage 2's ported alittle more right?
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2.055 intake valve will be plenty on a stage 2.
PM Gunnar @ Patriot for direct help.
I would think that a stage 2 LS6 "style" patriots
2031
Assy. 2.055"/1.57"/64cc
$1,195.00 pair




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