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Old 11-14-2005, 11:42 PM
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OK, i have a Comp cam that i bought from a guy locally, 222/222, .566/.566, 110+4, and i have some comp 918 springs all with under 5,000 miles. My question is, what else should i do when i do the swap.

Oil Pump?
Pushrods?
Keepers/retainers?

Also, should i do all the bolt-ons first, or does it make a difference.

Currently i have MAC headers, ory, lid, K&N, cut-out(ordered today).
Planning on putting on:
SLP Underdrive pulley
LS6 Intake
Ported Throttle Body

No Tune or anything right now, im just going to wait till i have atleast the cam in.

Thanks,
Jason
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get some new pushrods, and a LS2 timing chain (it costs all of $35).....honestly i would do all the bolt-ons first....but its not gonna hurt anything by putting the cam in first....it just wont make as much power as its true potential. I put my cam in first and then did bolt-ons (stupid i know) but i just wanted to hear a little lope in my car instead of hearing just the damn electric fans!! Also if you are gonna put on an underdrive pulley now would be the time to do it.....it will save u a lot of work later. Good luck!!
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Like powerhouse said, you should go ahead and get at least an LS2 timing chain ($35) and an LS6 oil pump ($70). You should also get some pushrods, but the keepers/retainers should be fine.
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Originally Posted by 2 SSlow
OK, i have a Comp cam that i bought from a guy locally, 222/222, .566/.566, 110+4, and i have some comp 918 springs all with under 5,000 miles. My question is, what else should i do when i do the swap.

Oil Pump?
Pushrods?
Keepers/retainers?

Also, should i do all the bolt-ons first, or does it make a difference.

Currently i have MAC headers, ory, lid, K&N, cut-out(ordered today).
Planning on putting on:
SLP Underdrive pulley
LS6 Intake
Ported Throttle Body

No Tune or anything right now, im just going to wait till i have atleast the cam in.

Thanks,
Jason
When I did my cam swap I went with hardned push rods but it is not mandatory. You can use the stock keepers. I left everything else alone such as the oil pump & timing chain but my car only had around 20K miles. I am still running on the stock tune as well and the air fuel ratios are perfect. Some have not had as good of luck. I am very happy with my cam swap.

If you are going to do an U/D pulley it would be nice to do it now while you have it apart anyway. An ls6 intake is a good investment but not urgent for now. I'm not a big believer in ported throttle bodies until big HP #'s.

Good luck.
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If low miles, you don't necessarily need the oil pump replaced. But I would do it otherwise. It's always a good piece of mind.

Upgraded timing chain and pushrods are also good measures.
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Originally Posted by ArcticZ28
If low miles, you don't necessarily need the oil pump replaced. But I would do it otherwise. It's always a good piece of mind.

Upgraded timing chain and pushrods are also good measures.

Im at 53,500 miles now, im going to have a 80 mile a day daily commute come jan. for school. i just hope with a decent tune i can still manage some decent gas mileage.
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Should i get some kind of specific hardened pushrods, or just some new stock ones?

So basically we have so far

New pushrods
LS6 Oil Pump $70
LS2 Timing Chain $35
U/D pulley while im at it $220 + new belts
and a tune correct?

That would about put me where i need to be i guess.

About how much are a set of pushrods, or alteast what brand and size?
Im just trying to get a guestimate of how much all this stuff is going to cost me. Im getting some christmas present ideas for the parents

ALso with this combo, do you think 380rwhp/380 rwtq is out of the question? Im not looking for the fastest car on the street, but just a fun to drive car that can hold its own at the track
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Stock length (7.400") hardened pushrods, sponsors like TSP and TR sell them.
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check texas-speed.com or thunderracing.com for some hardened pushrods. And if you're looking to make that kind of hp #'s you should probably go w/ a bigger cam.
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I talked to one of the guys at LINGENFELTER motorsports about using the LS6 ported pump with my cam swap and he said it would be pushing too much psi and it isn't a must of a cam swap. He told me that they only use it on their HiPo rebuild's (i.e. strokers, FI) Just thought I would share the info

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It's def not a must, but with the integrity (or lack thereof) of the stock non-LS6 oil pumps, it's pretty much a no-brainer to replace it with even just a new stock, unported LS6 pump while u're in there. Most people go with the ported pump to increase pressure a bit and feel a bit safer spinning to higher RPM's.
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low duration cam + low LSA + 4 degrees advance = power peaks on the low end of the rpm range. Pushrods wont really be necessary but it's 100 bucks, if you can afford it just throw them in there.




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