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Old 12-08-2005, 03:33 AM
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try contacting the AFR people and see what they actually recommend? or check w/ one of the sponsors on the right
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Originally Posted by Jpr5690
the reps at lg told me the x3 is the biggest id want to go and that i should mill the heads ... ovbiously your setup makes power but thats not the only factor to consider...
You don't have to mill the heads. Jugger ran out of the box AFR 205s with the X4, not milling, and no flycutting, and ran faster than Magnus. Magnus had milled AFR 225s with the X4.

Talk to AFR about the heads, not a salesperson at a shop. They would know more about them because they designed the heads.
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Originally Posted by 4thGenCamaro
Magnus had milled AFR 225s with the X4.
Magnus had milled 205s on his car, not 225s.
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Originally Posted by Good Doctor
Magnus had milled 205s on his car, not 225s.
He had AFR casting heads, but they were not 205s. This quote is taken from Louis from LG himself:

Originally Posted by Louis
Im not revealing any secrets.

I did the install on Keiths car Thursday before he went to the track. He Dynoed late friday, and ran it sunday in less than ideal weather.

Heads are AFR castings, and the rest is, well, the rest.

The cam on the other hand, well, lets just call it the G5xX. Its tamer than an XE-R lobed cam, and with 921s, can be spun to 7500 no problem on hydraulic lifters. Lift is 620, LSA is normal.

Compression is such that it was dynoed and ran on regular 93 Pump.
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Magnus didn't NOT have the X-4, he was running a WAY bigger cam.
But anyway-
That's great, have fun.
My car IS streetable, I just have no desire to drive it on the street.

BTW- make my car 3700#, it's still gonna run 10.80's.
Old 12-08-2005, 12:15 PM
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They Were Factory Stock Afr Castings Out Of The Box!!!
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milled and ported?
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10.80 ON MOTOR? OR MOTOR N SPRAY? IF THATS ALL MOTOR TIMES..... **** SOLD!!!


Originally Posted by The Juggernaut
Magnus didn't NOT have the X-4, he was running a WAY bigger cam.
But anyway-
That's great, have fun.
My car IS streetable, I just have no desire to drive it on the street.

BTW- make my car 3700#, it's still gonna run 10.80's.
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incase you didn't notice...it went 9.90@ over 134 on motor @ 2800#
Old 12-08-2005, 01:27 PM
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The Regular AFR port. I bought them from Mike Mester on this forum because I needed a set of heads fast, and he had them. He can vouch for them being stock, as is from AFR.
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Juggernaut,

Pm Me More Details On What Exactly You Ran That 10.8 On... I May Be Changeing My Mind If It Is As Good As It Sounds....

Thnaks!
-john
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He ran 9.90 at 2800lbs, and if someone had a 3700lb raceweight, THEY would run 10.80
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Originally Posted by kpowr82




I still gotta work on that. How do you think I could get rid of some of the lope? My idle is already at 900 rpms.
Try adding timing at idle and lean it till 1500rpm.
I'll be putting the Torquer 2 in next week. I have PRC's 2.5 (2.04/1.585).
My cam is on a 113+0 though.
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nevermind keep your parts.....
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Parts are already sold.
Good luck with your combo.
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Thnx!! Btw Love The Launch Pic
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Try adding timing at idle and lean it till 1500rpm.
I'll be putting the Torquer 2 in next week. I have PRC's 2.5 (2.04/1.585).
My cam is on a 113+0 though.
Thanks predator, you're always very helpful! I've been reading a lot about idle tuning on this site and from links in the sticky. I just haven't gotten real deep into the actual tuning yet. I'll get this thing down over the winter.

Sorry for the thread hi-jack, I'm done now
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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut
Parts are already sold.
yay i got one!



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