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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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Anyone have an opinion as to whether this cam on a 114lsa will work with an a4 car? Mods in sig... I am also adding longtubes/offroad y and SVO 30# injectors.

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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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It should work just fine. I had it on a 112+2lsa in an m6 and it idled perfectly fine.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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I had it in my A4, but it was on a 112+2. You shouldnt have any problems. If the lope doesnt bother you, Id get it on a 112. Its a nasty sounding cam. I miss it!
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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The cam peaks high. Keep it on a 112. Tuning can make up for it.
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A 112 is ok with nitrous though?
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dwayneracing
A 112 is ok with nitrous though?
yes. That cam loves nitrous. 112 is ok.
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I just called them and I think I am going to order the 233/239 on a 113lsa.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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I just called them and I think I am going to order the 233/239 on a 113lsa.
We have that cam on a 112 in an A4 car and it runs great.

Nate
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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I ordered it! They advised me to go up to the dual springs and titanium retainers so i did.
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^ Congrats!
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thanks for the advice....
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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You'll be happier with the cam you picked. It uses aggressive lobes which give you more power under the curve. The 231/237 is on milder lobes and suffers a bit down low.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
You'll be happier with the cam you picked. It uses aggressive lobes which give you more power under the curve. The 231/237 is on milder lobes and suffers a bit down low.

so the 233/239 is an all around better cam, that is just a little more loupier?

just trying to get an understanding
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dwayneracing
I ordered it! They advised me to go up to the dual springs and titanium retainers so i did.
keep me posted to how much you like that cam..I'm getting ready to order mine...how long did they say you had to wait??
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Originally Posted by rosm187
so the 233/239 is an all around better cam, that is just a little more loupier?

just trying to get an understanding
Check out JRP's cam guide sticky at the top of the internals forum.

The 231/237 was ground on a Lunati cam that featured lobes more like Comp's XE lobes.
The newer TSP grinds like the 233/239 feature XE-R type lobes which produce more low end power at the expense of valvetrain wear. Given a good spring like the PRC duals that TSP sells- not a problem.
So, the 233/239 will probably match the 231/237's stellar top end performance, while making better midrange power.

Lope is not a reflection on a cam's performance potential. It's the choppy sound created by overlap between intake and exhaust valve events. A slower ramp rate lobed cam will probably lope harder than a faster one. Lope is also caused by split in intake and exhaust duration (231/237 or 233/239), combined with sub 114 lsa. Some 114+ lsa cams still lope however, so judging by lsa alone won't get you a lopey cam.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
Lope is also caused by split in intake and exhaust duration (231/237 or 233/239), combined with sub 114 lsa. Some 114+ lsa cams still lope however, so judging by lsa alone won't get you a lopey cam.
Not necessarily true...check out GM's cam design...they are now putting up to 20 degrees between the intake and exhaust and it idles smooth as ever...

TR followed this design idea when creating the CheaTR cam, also with a big difference between intake and exhaust, and doesn't hardly lope at all.
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^ My point was that there's many factors which go into what makes a cam lope. Many people would think that all 112 lsa cams lope, but some don't chop very hard at all.
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southFL: Thanks for reinforcing my decision. I figure if I dont like it for whatever reason I can always sell it and put another in! Since I am keeping stock heads I wanted as agressive a cam as my A4 would reasonably allow...

instag8r: TSP has the cam on the shelf and is shipping tomorrow I believe. I will let you know how I like it. My friend owns a performance shop 5 minutes from my house so I can have unlimited dyno time. Also, in April I guess Bryan Herter is going to tune my car and I hear he knows his $hit....
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great thanks, I'll be watching for your post or PM me with your thoughts ASAP
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agree, very nasty sounding but very driveable. made awesome power up top.
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