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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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238/240 .608/.612 112 LSA Cam in a 402 stroker 6 speed. How streetable will it behave? The powerband on the cam is between 2800rpm and 7400 and I don't run my engine past 6000rpm. How much am I gonna lose?

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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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The powerband wont be that high in a 402! That cam is a baby cam as far as 402's go. Go BIGGER!
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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I'll be stepping up from the basic LS6 cam 204 in/ 218 ex. .550/.550 117LSA. Right now I've got pretty quick throttle response and what feels like a decent amount of pull throughout the power band. THe idle is pretty smooth once it warms up except for a smalling surging that happens about once every couple of seconds.

This cam I'm looking at is a race only. Can someone tell me how it will feel below 2800rpm. Mostly just concerned with under 2000 as I'm driving on the highway.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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Youre currently driving an ls6 cam in a 402 ci motor?
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yeah go bigger...i have a stock cube motor and my cam is bigger than that....i have a 238/242 .605/.610 11lsa...
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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Super-duper extra streetable was how the engine was built. I'll agree. the Z06 cam is starving my engine.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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That cam in a 402 is like blowing into a tunnel. A 402 can take a mid 240's duration real easy. We'll need to know the rest of your setup to determine intake/exhaust duration though. Then it's up to you to pick the lift/ramp/advance you want for the manners you want on the street. Judging by the fact that you want a really streetable setup, you're gonna want a wide lsa (read: as little overlap as possible) to keep the bottom end and street manners.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by squealingtires
I'll be stepping up from the basic LS6 cam 204 in/ 218 ex. .550/.550 117LSA. Right now I've got pretty quick throttle response and what feels like a decent amount of pull throughout the power band. THe idle is pretty smooth once it warms up except for a smalling surging that happens about once every couple of seconds.

This cam I'm looking at is a race only. Can someone tell me how it will feel below 2800rpm. Mostly just concerned with under 2000 as I'm driving on the highway.
It's not a race only cam--it will be quite mild in a 402. If it's untuned, it will feel like its a race only cam. I assume the LS6 cam is untuned if its surging in a 402?
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 11:48 PM
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In case you want another person's opinion, I say definitely go bigger. That cam is WAY to conservative for a 402. You can go a lot bigger and keep the drivability nice.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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everyone's definition of streetable is different..


I call the 26x/26x hydraulic cam in my 408 streetable.


I definitely suggest a cam in the low 240's
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Thanks for all the input. Here's the rest of the setup:

243 casting heads with extreme machine work.
Intake (255cc and 2.18" valve) Flow @ 28"H2O approx. 345 cfm
exhaust (88cc and 1.625" valve) Flow @ 28"H2O approx. 240 cfm
62.5cc chambers netting 11.1:1 CR

Intake manifold: portmatched aluminum Wieand
TB: BBK 80mm

Exhaust: 1 3/4" stainless longtubes

Internals: SLP402 stroker package
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Holy hell those are some big valves!
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that's what she said

So how about a 238/240 low .600's lift on a 112 lsa? that should keep me streetable. Talked with a camshaft manufacturer and they said it would make good power between 2500-6800 rpm. Just whe I want to be.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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Damn....and I thought I was getting hammered for having a tr224/224 114 cam in a ls6 stage 1 headed 383. Do you have any rwhp/tq #'s with your z06 cam 402? Everyone is telling me to go bigger too!!!
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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My 402 has a 248/254 629/622 113.
Streetable, nice lope though. Fairly driveable right now and it only has a base tune on it.

Mine isn't a daily driver though. You might want something a touch smaller.
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Originally Posted by SiL3NtXWS6
I call the 26x/26x hydraulic cam in my 408 streetable.
hey thats not an ASA cam
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Originally Posted by squealingtires
that's what she said

So how about a 238/240 low .600's lift on a 112 lsa? that should keep me streetable. Talked with a camshaft manufacturer and they said it would make good power between 2500-6800 rpm. Just whe I want to be.

Call Ed @ EDC hes a sponser here and is the man when it comes to custom cams. He has a data sheet he has you fill out, so that he can get a feel of the car before he grinds your cam. At the least give him a call or write him an email.

He has done a couple guys here in az and they are more than happy with them. Not only that he does grinds for one of the local shops cam lines. He knows his ****.
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Originally Posted by ArcticZ28
That cam in a 402 is like blowing into a tunnel. A 402 can take a mid 240's duration real easy. We'll need to know the rest of your setup to determine intake/exhaust duration though. Then it's up to you to pick the lift/ramp/advance you want for the manners you want on the street. Judging by the fact that you want a really streetable setup, you're gonna want a wide lsa (read: as little overlap as possible) to keep the bottom end and street manners.

Possible a cam such as an X4 ? Realatively converservative for an X4. **** the X4 in my ls6 is very streetable. Its all in the tune.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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I should get those dyno numbers before I swap cams since it seems like a lot of people would like to know including myself. I'm just running a conservative mail order tune from Street & Performance in Mena, Arkansaw. After the cam install I'll be paying someone to really tune the engine in.
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I have a 246 248 .615 114 in my 382 and its very drivable. Its mainly a driver.
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