View Poll Results: Which cam will produce a better ET?
T-Rex will drag an MS3 car down the quarter mile
322
66.53%
MS3 will drag a t-rex car down the quarter mile
162
33.47%
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T-REX vs. MS3 on the track.
Thunder Racing designed both cams and tested them, I wanted to go T-rex but i talked to Shane who basically owns TR and he told me the Raptor cam is setting cam only records in Austalia and has already proven itself to be faster at the track than the T-rex. Since your so smart Mr.Lemon , Call and get the Facts from the People that designed both cams and deal with them everyday before you start making assumptions and pointing your Punisher finger.
i have the facts.. i just posted them.. i dont need to call shane or anyeone from TSP, TR, Futural, Etc.. to know that..
i made 0 assumptions, and didnt "point my finger" at anyone..
what does Punisher Racing have anything to do with this?
lol Y2K you may want to educate yourself before attacking someone like "Mr Lemon".
have people that used the raptor cams built faster cars? yes
Is the raptor a faster or better cam? No. Its just a cam.
It may be proven to perform better than the T-Rex in certain applications, but to say it is faster? that is an ignorant statement.
have people that used the raptor cams built faster cars? yes
Is the raptor a faster or better cam? No. Its just a cam.
It may be proven to perform better than the T-Rex in certain applications, but to say it is faster? that is an ignorant statement.
i would need in the pm..
full mod list
future mods you plan on
track car, weekend toy, DD, etc..
how good of a tuner do you have to tune your car
do you care about dyno numbers
do you care about track times
etc etc etc...
That is just a little advise. but you would have no problem running a trex.
You could very well run a T-Rex in that car and be succsesful however with your LS6 intake you may be interested in a cam with less duration. Seeing as though the LS6 starts to sufficate around 6500 rpm, and the Trex likes to spin 7000+rpm. of course if you plan on upgrading to a FAST intake in the future then you wouldnt have to worry about that.
That is just a little advise. but you would have no problem running a trex.
That is just a little advise. but you would have no problem running a trex.
with the 5.3s and ls6 intake.. your car is probably going to react a little better to a little bit smaller cam.. something along the lines of an ms3... maybe even a hair smaller..
you cant say any cam is better than any other cam... depends on what you want, why you want it, and each persons individual setup..
the following post after yours was spot on..
Ok, So what would be a good cam spec for me running my forged 347 which is low compression for the time being till I someday save up enough for forced induction and will switch out whatever cam I decide to put in it out for a more blower friendly cam. I will be spraying anywhere between a 150 to 200 shot of nitrous. I want very good 1/4 times that is all I am looking for, the car is driven on the street but no very much at all. Track is Most Important to me... thanks guys
Ok, So what would be a good cam spec for me running my forged 347 which is low compression for the time being till I someday save up enough for forced induction and will switch out whatever cam I decide to put in it out for a more blower friendly cam. I will be spraying anywhere between a 150 to 200 shot of nitrous. I want very good 1/4 times that is all I am looking for, the car is driven on the street but no very much at all. Track is Most Important to me... thanks guys
something like a torquer v3... f14.. etc..
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Im running a MS3 and really enjoy it. Its been a great driver.I have to agree that the MS3 is a better street/strip cam, but like said before if your shooting it with NO2 the MS3 is a better choice. Basically its the application or car setup that makes a decision. Im sure both are good cams.
And what would be the down fall of me running a big cam such as the Tsunami high lift cam? Just so I understand, this way it will make more sence to me.
of course 1/8 mile.. with that mph and that time... that would put you at about a low 4 probably in the 1/4 on a real pass... sorry i didnt specify clearer.. downside? depends on how good your tuner is.. if you have a good tuner.. there should be any downfall.. gas mileage is about all i can think of.. but if you want a cam, gas mileage shouldnt be in mind..
i dont know how good it is on PTV clearance.. if its like the ms4/trex than it will cut down on the options of heads available without flycutting, if you flycut.. no worries..
dont know exact specs.. but i think its a decent cam.. have you looking at the ms3? it has proven itself on the track and street time and time again..
I have always liked the MS3 cam, I am justed confused, Alot of people out here in colorado have big cam's like The
Texas Speed Tsunami 235/240, .654"/.609", 111 LSA Camshaft.
AIR CHAD CAM 235/239 .647 .610 109LSA http://www.coloradolsx.com/forum/vie...hp?f=23&t=1785
I mine this guy gained 79rwhp just on a cam up here.
I just see a lot of them running good times here in colorado at 5800 ft above sea level and I figured a bigger cam will pull in more air, and that is everyone's mind set. Will the MS3 work up here and pull in enough air to make good et's?
Last edited by 99Ls1fever; Apr 21, 2009 at 09:07 PM.
What does that convert to on a 1/4 mile track?
I have always liked the MS3 cam, I am justed confused, Alot of people out here in colorado have big cam's like The
Texas Speed Tsunami 235/240, .654"/.609", 111 LSA Camshaft.
AIR CHAD CAM 235/239 .647 .610 109LSA http://www.coloradolsx.com/forum/vie...hp?f=23&t=1785
I mine this guy gained 79rwhp just on a cam up here.
I just see a lot of them running good times here in colorado at 5800 ft above sea level and I figured a bigger cam will pull in more air, and that is everyone's mind set. Will the MS3 work up here?
I have always liked the MS3 cam, I am justed confused, Alot of people out here in colorado have big cam's like The
Texas Speed Tsunami 235/240, .654"/.609", 111 LSA Camshaft.
AIR CHAD CAM 235/239 .647 .610 109LSA http://www.coloradolsx.com/forum/vie...hp?f=23&t=1785
I mine this guy gained 79rwhp just on a cam up here.
I just see a lot of them running good times here in colorado at 5800 ft above sea level and I figured a bigger cam will pull in more air, and that is everyone's mind set. Will the MS3 work up here?
not to be an ***.. but the "mind set" of that... doesnt make any since...
will you run as good times there as at atco? hell no.. not close... but... if a small cammed car runs there along with a big cam car..
lets say the small cam runs 7.8 and the big cam runs 7.6...
go to atco and the small cam will run 7.5 and the big cam will run 7.3...
both got faster, both have same gap in time...
will the ms3 work up there...
just as good as any other cam.. dont think like that anymore, it could possibly make you build a horribly mismatched setup.. go with what works everywhere else.. it will work there too..
mid 11s... 121ish..
not to be an ***.. but the "mind set" of that... doesnt make any since...
will you run as good times there as at atco? hell no.. not close... but... if a small cammed car runs there along with a big cam car..
lets say the small cam runs 7.8 and the big cam runs 7.6...
go to atco and the small cam will run 7.5 and the big cam will run 7.3...
both got faster, both have same gap in time...
will the ms3 work up there... just as good as any other cam..
dont think like that anymore, it could possibly make you build a horribly mismatched setup.. go with what works everywhere else.. it will work there too..
not to be an ***.. but the "mind set" of that... doesnt make any since...
will you run as good times there as at atco? hell no.. not close... but... if a small cammed car runs there along with a big cam car..
lets say the small cam runs 7.8 and the big cam runs 7.6...
go to atco and the small cam will run 7.5 and the big cam will run 7.3...
both got faster, both have same gap in time...
will the ms3 work up there...
just as good as any other cam.. dont think like that anymore, it could possibly make you build a horribly mismatched setup.. go with what works everywhere else.. it will work there too..
Just wanted to know thanks. Why do bigger cams then turn better ET's?
bigger cams WITH good matching supporting mods run better times...
smaller cam with good matching supporting mods run better times than bigger cams with a horribly mismatched setup..
when i say big and small i mean....
big=ms4 trex polluter ms3 f15 etc.....
small=22X cams
just try to stop thinking its all about the cam.. it is FAAAR from that.. the cam isnt that important.. if you get 23X/230X .600 cam.. it can run just as fast as ANY cam for our cars.. just match your whole setup together..
they dont...
bigger cams WITH good matching supporting mods run better times...
smaller cam with good matching supporting mods run better times than bigger cams with a horribly mismatched setup..
when i say big and small i mean....
big=ms4 trex polluter ms3 f15 etc.....
small=22X cams
just try to stop thinking its all about the cam.. it is FAAAR from that.. the cam isnt that important.. if you get 23X/230X .600 cam.. it can run just as fast as ANY cam for our cars.. just match your whole setup together..
bigger cams WITH good matching supporting mods run better times...
smaller cam with good matching supporting mods run better times than bigger cams with a horribly mismatched setup..
when i say big and small i mean....
big=ms4 trex polluter ms3 f15 etc.....
small=22X cams
just try to stop thinking its all about the cam.. it is FAAAR from that.. the cam isnt that important.. if you get 23X/230X .600 cam.. it can run just as fast as ANY cam for our cars.. just match your whole setup together..
If I ran a fast 92/92 then a big cam would be alright then right?