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Jun 10, 2006 | 03:36 PM

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SVThis

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has anyone answered the question about what stall size is need for this cam?

Jun 10, 2006 | 03:44 PM

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has anyone answered the question about what stall size is need for this cam?

Good question.

My guess, based on my experience with the MS3 and it's similarity: For performance the bigger the better. Minimum recommended: ~4,000

What do you say, TSP?

Jun 10, 2006 | 11:10 PM

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its power ban is like 2800-6800...and i know bigger is pretty much better...but to keep my car still really street friendly id like to go with a 3500 stall or so...but i will go 400 if i have to....

my car only see's bout 200 miles or so a month...

Jun 10, 2006 | 11:17 PM

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its power ban is like 2800-6800...and i know bigger is pretty much better...but to keep my car still really street friendly id like to go with a 3500 stall or so...but i will go 4000 if i have to....

Absolutely go 4000. Trust me. I installed the MS3 with a 3500 stall speed converter and later replaced it with a 4k, then a different 4k (first one had issues). Big difference between the two speeds (noticed mostly in 60' at the track), it really needs the 4k.

The *real* power won't start at 2800. My MS3 doesn't come on till at least 4, and really hits by 4500. Matches perfectly to my 4k stall.

Jun 25, 2006 | 06:11 PM

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OK I ordered the cam up.

Sold the rims, I just need to sell my fm13 now.

I LOVE THE LOPE OF THIS NEW CAM.

Jun 26, 2006 | 12:30 AM

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4000 should be no problem to DD. I DD 4400 and it was rough the first week but I got used to it. It's a blast now. My gas mileage went to the ******* though. 20+mpg in the city is now 10mpg in the city.

Jun 26, 2006 | 02:00 PM

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hmm i wonder what the idle was at in that vid...seems like it was up there.

Jun 26, 2006 | 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SVT THIS

The MS4 is better if you don't mind replacing your dual springs once a year

Not true at all, I have been running a .640 lift cam for at least 28,000 miles and have yet experienced valve float or any other valve train wear (lifters, rockers, valve stems...etc). I have had these springs in my personal car for two years and as far as I know the springs still have plenty of life left on them, one of these days I'll pull them out and compare them to a newer spring to see what exactly the mileage has done to them.

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Jun 26, 2006 | 06:02 PM

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Ya sorry about that. I thought that I had read that in a different LSK lobed cam thread, but I was mistaken.

Jun 26, 2006 | 07:53 PM

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any dyno sheets to see where it starts to drop in power??

Jun 26, 2006 | 09:51 PM

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Damn, I promised my wife I would keep the SS stock. I can see a MS4 cammed 11:1 347, with some ported LS6 heads and a Fast 90/90 combo heading my way when the turbo car get finished. Should be good fun with a 6spd, good clutch and 9 inch with 4.30 gears and 28x10.5 ET drags.

That would make for a killer DD.

Jun 27, 2006 | 01:21 AM

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From: sheridan

what kind of 60. ft am I looking at with a 4000 stall and 3:73??? anyone got a idea?
Thanks

Jun 27, 2006 | 01:50 AM

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depends on what kind of tires you will be using, but assuming you are using slicks i would say 1.7's maybe 1.6's. Somone correct me if im wrong.

Jun 27, 2006 | 01:31 PM

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2002 LS1, stock heads and internals with LT's, full exhaust and intake. Would the MS3 make more under and curve power than the MS4 on the same shot?

Jun 27, 2006 | 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA

Look for a bunch of dyno results coming very soon guys! How about 550flywheel horsepower with PRC Street Stg 1 LS6 heads!!

The camshaft is running around in several daily drivers right now with nothing but great results! I'm happy with how well this thing comes in making power on the tighter lobe seperations & little bit of advance...

We've even have a few 110 lobe sep MS4's in testing right now!

Our last test car gained 72 rear wheel horsepower with the MS4 & underdrive pulley!

Any updates on the MS4 on a 110? How much of a difference would this make and in what situations would a 110 be benificial?

Bear with me....I'm a newb......

R/

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Jun 27, 2006 | 04:31 PM

#156

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Originally Posted by silverstreak_ws6

what kind of 60. ft am I looking at with a 4000 stall and 3:73??? anyone got a idea?
Thanks

My under/average performing car pulled consistent 1.64 60's with all bolt ons, MS3, 3.23s and TCI SSF4000, a little weight reduction and ET Streets.

Jun 27, 2006 | 04:39 PM

#157

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From: sheridan

its come down to this...G5x3 cam...or the Ms4..i need yall opinion..i plan on running just stock heads..with cam and bolt-ons...maybe spray in the future...ive heard good things bout lg's cam..but the Ms4 cam seems sick as ***...any opinions?

Jun 27, 2006 | 04:45 PM

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Depends on how big of a converter you're willing to run and how much tuning you're willing to put in. The MS4 is quite a bit bigger than the G5X3. It will take quite a bit more tuning and a lot more converter.

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Jun 27, 2006 | 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by silverstreak_ws6

With the G5x3 112, LG is probably going to tell you to flycut your pistons for precautionary reasons. Although I have seen some people put a 112 in their motor without flycutting, it's best that you measure and see exactly how close it is. The G5x3 on a 114, should be just fine.

TSP has already said the MS4 clears, with no milling of the heads, stock gaskets. It's your choice on what you want to do, just letting you know since some people do not want to flycut.

Jun 27, 2006 | 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick G

The MS4 is quite a bit bigger than the G5X3. It will take quite a bit more tuning and a lot more converter.

this isn't entirely true. the x3 and ms4 aren't that much different. i talked to lg about a converter for the x3 on a 114 (or 112) and their suggestion was no less than 3,500...which is much less than the minimum recommendation for an ms4. the g5x4 is closer to the ms4, the x3 is just a bebe

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