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Old 05-19-2008, 11:39 PM
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What kind of track times does a raped ape run?
If he has a TSP 408 and hes spraying......its not 2 hard to run 10's or faster with that motor if he has traction
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I didn't ask for what you think it should run. I wanna know what it DOES run.
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Originally Posted by N4cer
I didn't ask for what you think it should run. I wanna know what it DOES run.
you seem to have something against TSP
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Originally Posted by N4cer
What kind of track times does a raped ape run?
Depends on how well hung the rapist was.

Small = Low 11's.

Average = High 10's.

Large = Low 10's.

OMFG = SINGLE DIGITS BABY!

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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
The madness I find with LG is they don't even want to give you a cam card with your puchase.
What about DCR?
What about degreing?

How the hell can I put an efficient performing combo together if I do not have the .006, .200 specs? Not to mention ICL?

Some poeple that do not really understand how it works just stick it in there blindly, or they just rely on what LG feeds them.

Do their cams work? Hell yes.
Are the combos optimised with their cams? Very few if you are not having the whole work done inhouse at LG.

Can their cams still be copied? Hell yes, and some of them are floating on this board right under their eyes (But if you mention LG in your post, it will vanish )

Did you see how much of a ***** the guy was on speed channel? The owner thinks hes god and talks down at people.
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I think it is simple.

If it bothers you, go some where else.
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Originally Posted by GMmexican
you seem to have something against TSP
You seem to miss the facts about them. I have nothing against them. I bought the internals for my engine there. But I also think people are mentally retarded lemmings for blindly nutswinging on them when they tried to BS everyone on their Terminator heads and nobody even mentions it like you're all scared to admit the truth.

Do I like their parts/prices? Yes.
Do I like their dishonest business practices? NO.

I also have something against anybody who can't see this blatant dishonesty by them. If that's you, so be it. I'm not responsible if you want to overlook dishonest business practices.
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Originally Posted by darrensls1
Depends on how well hung the rapist was.

Small = Low 11's.

Average = High 10's.

Large = Low 10's.

OMFG = SINGLE DIGITS BABY!

Looks like it only ran a 12.3. Not very raped, nor apish to me.
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Originally Posted by N4cer
Looks like it only ran a 12.3. Not very raped, nor apish to me.


i dont have a track anywhere near me. there WAS one in Rockingham, but it got closed down. only thing around here is the damn 1/8th mile. ive done numerous; i mean numerous; cam installs- heads/cam installs, and this tsp package puts them all to shame. i can tell just by the way the car runs against stock ls1s and the other cam only cars that i built and sold to friends.

and in the end, who cares. i got what i wanted without the mystique of a high schooler
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
The madness I find with LG is they don't even want to give you a cam card with your puchase.
What about DCR?
What about degreing?

How the hell can I put an efficient performing combo together if I do not have the .006, .200 specs? Not to mention ICL?

Some poeple that do not really understand how it works just stick it in there blindly, or they just rely on what LG feeds them.

Do their cams work? Hell yes.
Are the combos optimised with their cams? Very few if you are not having the whole work done inhouse at LG.

Can their cams still be copied? Hell yes, and some of them are floating on this board right under their eyes (But if you mention LG in your post, it will vanish )

Is this self-incrimination, Z?

FWIW, we hear the same laments about "secret" cams that work form a few other sources. I think there might be a pattern here.

I missed this post back when, but Slick was kind enough to dredge it up. Thanks, Slick!

FWIW, I don't buy or sell or even use LG parts. I just observe the results. Better than most, but not necessarily better than all.

Jon
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Originally Posted by N4cer
You seem to miss the facts about them. I have nothing against them. I bought the internals for my engine there. But I also think people are mentally retarded lemmings for blindly nutswinging on them when they tried to BS everyone on their Terminator heads and nobody even mentions it like you're all scared to admit the truth.

Do I like their parts/prices? Yes.
Do I like their dishonest business practices? NO.

I also have something against anybody who can't see this blatant dishonesty by them. If that's you, so be it. I'm not responsible if you want to overlook dishonest business practices.

I have never bought anything from TSP and could care less about terminator heads, but Jon has been a stand up guy to the people in my car club that have bought parts from him, and judging by all the TSP motors and cams floating around here I think they are doing pretty good......everyone knows they have top notch customer service thats why they are one of the top sponsors in the f-body community and this forum

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No, all that takes is good advertising. Mostly in the form of having a board presence by posting. I'm done. You wanna pretend to be too blind to advertising and generally people being lemmings, that's fine. I can't argue with a closed mind that completely fails to grasp concepts.
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Originally Posted by N4cer
No, all that takes is good advertising. Mostly in the form of having a board presence by posting. I'm done. You wanna pretend to be too blind to advertising and generally people being lemmings, that's fine. I can't argue with a closed mind that completely fails to grasp concepts.
so your basing the companys image and integrity on the failed terminator heads?

two of the fastest cars here in my area in northern california are 2 turbo cars that have built TSP motors running ******* strong and single digits......i dont need to follow advertising or board presence, i see results in person

or if u want go look up trmin8tr and watch how many cars hes killed with his puny ms3, spray combo
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Originally Posted by GMmexican
so your basing the companys image and integrity on the failed terminator heads?

two of the fastest cars here in my area in northern california are 2 turbo cars that have built TSP motors running ******* strong and single digits......i dont need to follow advertising or board presence, i see results in person

or if u want go look up trmin8tr and watch how many cars hes killed with his puny ms3, spray combo
EXACTLY! There's the point, and you just made it. THANK YOU! TSP claimed to have sold hundreds upon hundreds of sets of those heads. And out of all of them, the ONLY set you know of running well was his. You made my point. And let's not forget, TSP played them off like "here's what he's using and you can order them too" but then I called them and they said no, they worked those heads extensively and you can't call and just order the setup. After DECEIVING people into thinking you could. And once they came out, they never once tried to hoe them out again after seeing that people are getting crappy results. And the certainly never grew the ***** to apologize for any of that either. So thank you so much for proving my point. You're a good guy after all.
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Originally Posted by N4cer
Looks like it only ran a 12.3. Not very raped, nor apish to me.
Well I'm not a raped ape nor would I want to be. And I have a funny feeling that my cars track times are going to get a lot better this season

And I'm even allowed to know the specs of my cam. Imagine that
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We all are and if you didn't know before, you should once you slide it in. It'd called a "degree wheel". Shhh. Apparently not many on this board know what one is by the looks of this thread.
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Originally Posted by N4cer
We all are and if you didn't know before, you should once you slide it in. It'd called a "degree wheel". Shhh. Apparently not many on this board know what one is by the looks of this thread.
I'm not doing the work. New Era Performance (sponsor) is. I'm sure they have one. And they even told me my cams specs. Imagine that.
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Originally Posted by darrensls1
I'm not doing the work. New Era Performance (sponsor) is. I'm sure they have one. And they even told me my cams specs. Imagine that.
I think most of the guys complaining aren't even the target audience, actually. Its more like people who don't work on their own cars. You know, lazy guys with no knowledge.
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Originally Posted by N4cer
I think most of the guys complaining aren't even the target audience, actually. Its more like people who don't work on their own cars. You know, lazy guys with no knowledge.
I do everything on my car except tuning


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