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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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just wondering with 2.125 and 1.750 cutters, how deep a cc is or half a cc? if anyone knows, save me the math lol
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Thats a real good question... How far down did you go?
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only one way to get that, it is called a "burette"
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I used this page to get arough estimate.... emphisis on ROUGH ESTIMATE.

http://www.abe.msstate.edu/~fto/tools/vol/wedge.html

I plugged in these numbers to estimate an intake valve relief piston eyebrow:

H: .400 (approx eyebrow width)
A: 1.500 (approx eyebrow length)
B: .090 (flycut depth)
C: .750

This results in 0.02249 or 0.3687 cc

I had previously estimated my reliefs at 1cc, but maybe now ill estimate them at 2/3 a cc.
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hmmmm, i have a spread sheet that may or may not work. does anyone know the depth of valve reliefs on the intake and exuast with a given cc for relief. for 0.090" cut i got a .662 cc on the exhuast side.
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Thats a real good question... How far down did you go?
havent got that far yet, heads are getting milled this week
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ok well I finally got it to work out in the equation, I think. I am in the process of making an excel sheet with all the variables to calculate cc based on cutter, valve angle, ect.

Here is what I am getting for a 2.125" intake cutter:
0.010"------------------0.063 cc
0.020"------------------0.109 cc
0.030"------------------0.151 cc
0.040"------------------0.192 cc
0.050"------------------0.234 cc
0.060"------------------0.279 cc
0.070"------------------0.329 cc
0.080"------------------0.385 cc
0.090"------------------0.447 cc
0.100"------------------0.517 cc

Granted this can still be way off, but I am going to double check on some things and make sure its right and play with it in excel. I am also going to cut and cc mine (or at least attempt to) to compair.
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Nice work! Very useful info. Id love to see the equation required to find the volume of an angles cylinder wedge.
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Its pretty long, my calculator took a while to do the integral lol. What I did, was take the area of a semi circle and subtracted the parts out I didnt need for each sliver for the integral. Based on some basic geometry and what not, it wasnt too bad, just a really long solution. Like I said, I will try to get it in excel. Now that I have an idea where I stand on things, I am getting everything ready for when I get the heads on Friday. Just have to wait on the exhuast fly cutter so I can modify the cutter or the head so it will fit.
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