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Ms4 or V.3
So I need lifters as well? The car Only has 35k on the motor. I will most likely shift at 6700rpm. Now it's an 01 m6 am I going to need a new oil pump? I was under the impression that 01's and 02's had an upgraded oil pump...
Maybe someone from TSP could chim in I know Brian Just put the V3 in his setup.
Maybe someone from TSP could chim in I know Brian Just put the V3 in his setup.
Last edited by rickyracer25; Oct 22, 2006 at 07:28 PM.
my opinion dont do the lifters till you do heads... plus you dont have that many miles on the car, also i kno plenty of people that did big cam installs without changing the lifters... but if u got the money to blow on lifters and install get the good ones... but it aint gunna be cheap, and ur gunna end up spending double when u get some good heads..... no this is just my opinion... u dont have to go by wat i say... i do recomend changing the chain and oil pump... its all like nitrous... you buy the safety stuff to help other things from breaking.... it may cost alil more.. but in the long run is better and will save you money!
o and for a timing chain an ls2 chain will be sufficient, and you can find some ported ls6 oil pumps for good prices aswell...
good luck!
o and for a timing chain an ls2 chain will be sufficient, and you can find some ported ls6 oil pumps for good prices aswell...
good luck!
whats the problem pulling the heads to do the job right the first time. so what if you have to pull them again when or if you ever get better heads as they are freaking out on the price of a set of lifters . if you cant afford the gaskets twice find another hobby . Not everyone will get new heads . You should degree any cam you install also so have money for that . Sorry to sound like a old man '' Get off my lawn'' but thats the proper way .
Originally Posted by cws T/A
whats the problem pulling the heads to do the job right the first time. so what if you have to pull them again when or if you ever get better heads as they are freaking out on the price of a set of lifters . if you cant afford the gaskets twice find another hobby . Not everyone will get new heads . You should degree any cam you install also so have money for that . Sorry to sound like a old man '' Get off my lawn'' but thats the proper way .
myself i wouldnt wanna pull the heads twice like i said.. but to each his own, and do watever u want.. its ur time and money
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I was in the same boat as you a while ago. Torquer v2, v3, ms3, and ms54. I decided a few hp didnt make a difference to me. It's a street car anyways. I might do another power adder later on so im not hurting for hp here. I figured I also didnt want to rev as high either. The torquer would be a lot more fun to drive as well on the street. So I decided to go with that and im gonna be ordering it this week.
based on my research....i feel that the double valve springs from tsp are a better investment than the 918's.....not that there bad or anything....but they tend to last longer....of course it also depends on your driving habits... i suggest you get dual valve springs, ls6 ported oil pump, ls2 timing chain and of course all the necessary gaskits.....
what about these cams in A4 cars not everone has an M6.. im in same boat and cant decide on a cam. i want to pull on the top end alot bc A4's when they hit drive they kinda fall on there face. 
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Originally Posted by bjamick
what about these cams in A4 cars not everone has an M6.. im in same boat and cant decide on a cam. i want to pull on the top end alot bc A4's when they hit drive they kinda fall on there face.
Originally Posted by rickyracer25
Anyone have any other track times for the torquer V.3 (TR Trak) with close to the same mods? MS4 guys come on is the cam worth the pains of driving it daily?
Originally Posted by bjamick
is a ms4 to much for an A4?
AJ
Originally Posted by cws T/A
whats the problem pulling the heads to do the job right the first time. so what if you have to pull them again when or if you ever get better heads as they are freaking out on the price of a set of lifters . if you cant afford the gaskets twice find another hobby . Not everyone will get new heads . You should degree any cam you install also so have money for that . Sorry to sound like a old man '' Get off my lawn'' but thats the proper way .
Hey man I wasn't freaking out about the lifters I was just unaware and asking. I'll get off your lawn, sorry for asking a question on a forum...
Im in the same boat right now for lifters. I only have 20K on the car but the heads are going to be off already. I was going to go with the GM High Rev lifters that SDPC sells. Dont know if its worth it with such little mileage since money is tight.
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The stock lifters are already good ones. They are very light weight from what ive heard. Be careful changing the ratio as it will mess with the lift and all.
for all the people that swapped to ms4 cams, did yall use the stock pushrod lengths or get longer ones? this will be going to a stock heads 2000 camaro, that's the last part that i need to buy and was wanting to make double sure i would be ordering the correct ones
^^^ I kind of have the same issue. I did a few calculations and started a thread regarding it and it looks like 7.425 or even 7.450 will work great. However I have LS5 heads and the vavles on those are longer than an LS1 head so I can get away with 7.400 for now (since I have them already).